First Cycle Help
I'm at the beginning stages of researching my first cycle and frankly, I'm overwhelmed and scared straight. I just had a few questions to make sure I've got this right.
I'm 37 (just turned).
182 lbs
5'-11"
approx 13-14 % BF (based on cheap calipers)
Good diet with occassional cheat
High protein intake, try to keep my macros in line and calorie intake has been a struggle due to my crazy schedule but I'm making the commitment Jan 1st to ramp it up a notch and add more calories.
My thoughts for the first cycle are:
Weeks 1-10 (or maybe 12): 400mg Test-E per week
Weeks 1-12: 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
PCT starts week 12 (or week 14 depending on cycle length), two weeks after last test shot
Week 1 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
I'm very confused on HCG. Do I need it or can I skip it? Not sure what brand. How to administer.
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG
Last, I've read through the "sources" and it looks like there are some solid sources but I'm nervous. Anyone ever been scared out of their minds their first cycle with everything?
Help please!
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And another question. So 400mg according to many seems to be a low dose. One thing I want to be careful with is although I want to put on some serious gains, I don't want to be so obvious about it. Would 400mg kinda help with it being not so dramatic? Especially if all goes well I will probably go for round 2 right before summer.
I have to be honest, I screwed up...my ADD got the best of me. I only accounted for enough to run 400mg for 12 weeks. Such a rookie! I suppose I could do 500mg for 10 weeks. The worst part about ADD is the impulsiveness. errrr
CleyonBecause Test E typically comes in 250mg/ML bottles, I'd suggest going with 500mg/wk. That's 2 ML, and really easy to measure out/keep track of. If you find that you are going to run short, just go ahead and order another bottle. If you don't finish it off this cycle, you will next cycle.
Yeah I will def. run short at 500mg/wk. Such a dummy.
CleyonIt happens. No one on here is perfect just correct it. Remember that these aren't just numbers, it will be much easier to measure out a 1ml shot than a .33ml shot.
Already been corrected :-D
Another question: I can't seem to find one supplier with all the gear I need. Does it make sense to keep looking or is it common to get gear from different places?
I just started my cycle today and I got my stuff from 3 different sources. It would be nice to get it all in one place but you do what you have to.
I almost forgot one key question. I'm currently taking a test booster (OTC), should I wait a period of time once I'm done taking it. I will be done in 2 weeks. Or could I jump right in to my cycle?
What test booster are you taking, make sure its not a ph.
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Thanks all. It makes sense on not starting the AI on week 1. I only said it because it seems like it was suggested a couple times in the sticky threads. So I could change the above to start at week 3.
The arimidex and aromasin seems to be mixed between people. I'm not sure what to do other than try one and see how it goes. Maybe have both on hand in case I have to switch. It would be worth the extra $$$ to me to have both. I also chose aromasin because I was intending to buy all from the same supplier.
My diet is good I think. I've been at maintenence for a while because I was injured but I'm 90% back to normal strength wise so I was planning on upping my calories Jan 1st. My goal is to build some lean mass for summer then cut a bit. I'm very consistant with the gym. I go early morning so I have no excuse later in the day not to go. I hate off days. I use to be out of shape and now I feel so good It motivates me even more to keep going forward, never backwards.
Thanks for the info on HCG. Maybe to keep it simple this first time I will avoid it. I'm nervous enough, so nervous I'm not sure I will actually go through with it. I'm very nervous about the order placing. makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it. lol
I've never cringed when doctors stick me with needles but I've never pinned myself. I'm sure I could though. A moment of pain will be worth it if everything goes good. to be honest, I'm a dad too and the thought of something going wrong is very scarey to me. I don't want to miss a second of my daughters life! Kinda makes me feel like a bad father (I got the guilts already and I haven't even done it..how pathetic. LOL).
hey man do 12 weeks of test e at 500 mg a week, your pct looks good
Do a little more research on the proper time to start an ai. Starting a AI on week 1 when it takes test e several weeks to build up and start to aromatize can take estro too low causing probs. I doubt you will need hCG on a 12 week cycle of test e only.
mr127superdeeget arimidex people get bad reactions from aromasin and have to switch to arimidex or the other way around and you dont wanna sit and wait around for shipping on a AI. and you dont have to start arimidex at week one infact dont because your estro will not have risen yet so you will crash start it at week 3 thats the soonest. good luck brother
MeinuntergangTake it easy, and for a first timer, you actually got everything right. I highly recommend you put most of your effort in the gym and the kitchen because regardless how well your cycle is thought out, results will be mediocre if diet isn't in check. Make sure you follow a diet constructed around your body type, see what carbs do to you, research pre and post work out nutrition, and work out routines.
To answer your question, Hcg is used because it mimics the LH hormones to keep the testes fully sized and painless. It's best ran twice a week at 250 iu per sub-q injection. You 'don't' really need it, people have been cycling for decades and hcg didn't become popular until a few years ago, but I use it myself. Your PCT is spot on.
Best of luck buddy.
AnonIts good to be afraid bro, lets you know your takin this seriously. Your cycle looks ok, run your test for 12 weeks if its 250mg/ml then just go 500 a week x2 pins of 250mg, a lot of guys on here will say run aromasin at 6.25 ed. Personally I think 12.5 eod is ok with a light cycle like this. I prefer adex. HCG is a personal choice weather you want to run it, I would say run it just how you said. PCT is set out fine.
Put up your stats bro so the vets in here can better advise you. Also I would advise a bit more time spent researching compounds and sources before you go commiting to anything. Good luck bro.