+ 1 No more PCT blues!
Since I posted last about my struggles I feel like a cloud has been lifted. I feel so much better. Appetite has improve, energy is climbing again and one big change I noticed what seemed to be overnight is my nuts grew back. LOL those shriveled peas seem to be back to normal. Morning wood has returned multiple days in a row which had been missing. I'm also not constantly feeling like I need to be on the juice. To be honest there have been a couple moments in the gym where I felt like I was on the gear.
Moral of the story, no matter how bad you think PCT sucks, it does get better with time. Unfortunately I'm not the most patient person. Thanks to all for keeping me level headed and bringing me down from the PCT ledge!
And for those with kids who watch Doc Mcstuffins... "I feel better, so much better...." lol
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Funny this post came back from the dead... I feel worse post pct than I did during pct. Getting labs tomorrow to see what's going on. This time from my doc. He thinks it's depression. I'm all but certain I'm not recovering. Strength is still up, never really lost much physically.. Mentally and funk stick I'm dead
Guess that's what happens when your old. Lol
Fuck it.
I'll get it fixed one way or another
Oh man sry to hear this!
Let us know your blood results and what the doctors says!
Post cycle depression (steroid withdrawal) is a very real thing!
I could not stand it myself and would be in Trt immediately if I had this issue!
I came off a 16wk cycle and didn't even feel off cycle at all,it was great!
I stayed off 12 weeks an I am on test Cyp again now; For another ten weeks for a basic low dose run!
I could not imagine not having real pct gear!!!!
I am sorry that happened to you! Very much so! best wishes!
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I did not follow time on +pct=time off, but All my bloods were gtg and I waited 12wks time! So either get bloods or follow above TimeOn+pct=time off, should get bloods anyways!
Thanks bro. I got my results back and test was 466. Overall better than what I expected. Jumped 166 in two weeks. I'm pretty sure this is all just a mind fuck. I had not felt that good in soooooo long. Over a decade so 3 months was a tease. I'm going to take labs at 2 week intervals, costly but it will help my head. If my levels stall, I'll be worried, if they rise I'll know it's a head game. I ain't gonna lie, I was/am thinking TRT but I'm going to resist the urge. I have no idea what my baseline is so I'll never know if I can cycle sooner than time on = time off but my this king is if I get up over 600, I'd be g2g. I'm 37, closer to 38. I've battled being depressed, addicted to opiates, clean for a few years now. I wouldn't doubt if my test is lower than normal.... But still within normal range according to the docs.
Oh and the 466 was from an 8am test. I do typically crash later in the day around 1pm.
How old are you? And you mind letting us know what source you used for pct? I've been seeing this a lot recently on other boards with sources SERMS who are showing up hit and miss. It's def scary. If you don't want to say out loud we can speak through pm
37 I used kalpa for nolva and clomid. I think they were legit. I don't think I can mention source I sent you a FR
Sounds good. I'll check that in a minute. Also opiates have been known to lower men's testosterone levels. I don't remember if it is direct causation but I know there is a correlation there within significant values. Try to look up more on it and the use of naltrexone (sp?) for a reset. Interesting stuff.
Clomid def does this. First couple days are moody, which usually makes bros think they can't handle it (well aside from the fact that some of them run it up to100mg...why?). After about week 1 or 2 you start getting that energy and pumps like you were while you were on. Happens to me too.
So you suggest 50/50/50/50 instead of 100/100/50/50? What's worked best for you? Curious because I'll be starting soon....any help would be much appreciated.
Most definitely. I would never in my life run anything past 50mg. 100 is just insane and some people even try 300 on the first day smh. Hell no. If you're using research chemicals then I could understand going above 50 slightly to compensate for possible error dosing but pharm grade never. I can't find it now but I remember a study showing men's HPTA function returned to baseline post clomiphene administration at 12.5mg a day for a few months.
On week 12 of a 16wk TestE with a testP kickstart. Gonna run pharm grade Clomid and Nolva. Should I just run the 50/50/50/50 clomid but what about the Nolva should I run the norm with 40/40/20/20? Wasn't aware of the overdosing the pharm grade clomid. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
The clomid looks fine. If you start getting side effects don't be afraidmtomdrop it down to 25. You will still recover with that dose. I'm saying with ugl or research chems to have to account for possible misdosing. You shouldn't have to if you are running a SERM from a regulated and licensed compounding pharmacy. The nolva looks fine.
Good shit thanks bro
Brother that's what I'm running 50mg. I blasted with hcg and i feel pretty damn good.
Good to hear man, I am only a few weeks behind you...
Glad to hear man! You can now enjoy playing with your daughter again ^^
Did u end up stopping the clomid ahead of time or did u just wait it out?
Absolutely on the daughter comment. That was hard to deal with!!
I am still taking the clomid. Monday is my last day!
AnonYay!! I am so happy to hear this!! sending positive energy your way
Thank you!