posted Wed, 03/28/2012 - 08:29
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Hey guys,
I am 23 years old from the UK. I was looking onto the website CENSORED and I am 185 cm and 78kg. I have like 5-6% body fat so I am looking to bulk, I am very lucky to have a six-pack so I would like to bulk but not increase in body fat too much. I am working out 4 times a week in average usually more.
What oral products do you advice, I am living with my parents so I cannot use injections.
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Bro, see if you can sneak in some injectables (Test-e or C since it's your first cycle). They're better and won't mess with your liver like only orals would.
leeboylook into tbol fella 80mg per day for 6 weeks would be a good start for you, not a very harsh compound so a simple nolva PCT will be fine.
(sigh) spend the next 3 weeks reading the boards man! posts like this will have your karma in a minus situation in no time,and you will end up feeling shit because these guys will burn you hard for even whispering the word ORALS here, get mad with yourself and hit the gym hard tell your mum to big up your meals and watch yourself change!
Forget steroids and use CHANNELLED AGGRESSION at your age! now go eat that fucking gym.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle.
Dude, there is so much info on here to explain how to cycle, how to train how to eat.
hllwbdboy is right. If you adjusted you diet and training you would see gains very quickly.
If you are training 4+ times a week, I would say you are over training. So you will not get bigger.
Sorry, over training is bullshit.
Arnold worked out 6 days a week...It can be done.
Just saying...
And who are you call it bullshit.
What does that prove in relation to this guy.
sgtstedankosure, it can be done. Arnold knew his body, & had developed to the point where he could "listen to his body" & he was on ungodly amounts of gear! Just because it worked for him, doesn't mean It's right for everybody.. Unless you're on juice, 6 days is a shitload! Unless you do one body part, or maybw 1 - 2 sets or something. Imo... I forgot what I really wanted to say : (
knuckle-headIt can't simply be because of amount of days ... It has to be recovery which is food, rest, supps, and gear . I might work out a lot but I eat plenty some people gain better when they work out a lot and add more to recovery some people like Dorian Yates work out less and put on more I'm simply saying its a combo of things number of days worked out doesn't matter as much as sets, reps, sleep, food and recovery agents
Overtraining is a reality bro! especially when on a bulker! less is more! trust me.
Good input guys. I suppose saying it's "bullshit" was the wrong phrase.
Lol no worries bro
knuckle-headI work out six days a week and haven't stopped gaining Overtraining can't be due to the amount of days he could only work out twenty minutes a day lol
sgtstedankohttp://www.eroids.com/rules-and-guidelines
sgtstedankoVitamins/minerals, Zma, creatine hydro chloride, whey protein (before & after workouts) & casein protein before bed, bcaa, cla, & lots of FOOD! In my expert opinion, those are the best oral bulkers. You'll waste your money in an oral cycle/s! You will lose all if your gains! Besides, you're too young. Eat properly, lift harder, w/more intensity 3-4 times per week. Hike w/weighted ruck! Build your base. Live at home as long as you can. Being a man sucks, sometimes ;'(
Move out
Man I'm young and inexperienced so I don't know much but I do know ORALS ONLY IS A BIG NO NO...good way to fuck your liver up and
Not keep any of the gains you make...now as for the fact you live with your parents do you can't do injections?...so if they find a pill bottle of steroids it's ok? But syringes and oils(the safer way) you'll get in trouble? Your 23 man, are your parents gonna punish you? Now don't get me wrong I understand the whole "under their roof, under their rules" but from your two statements of a oral and your parents cant know and age(I'm same age I know)...your not ready..read this post and all the links in it then you'll be in better position to make a decision
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/basic-first-cycle
First READ THE RULES BEFORE YOU START POSTING
Second you are still young enough to still make netty gains with diet and discpline
Third, well, you'll get enough flaming for the (never seems to go out of style) questions on ORAL ONLY cycles that you will get the picture