+ 2 First Clean Bulk...Thoughts? Suggestions?
Just thought I would post up some info and see if I could get some feedback or advice:
I am doing the following:
Cleanse for 2 weeks prior
WK 1 - 16 TEST E @ 500MG SPLIT PR WK.
WK 1 - 14 EQ(BOLD)@600MG PR WK.
Weeks 1-16 .5 to 1 mg A-dex (I am keeping it on hand just in case, and I won't take it unless I notice any gyno
Weeks 1-22 B6 ED, Garlic ED, Multi ED, LIV 52 ED, Calcium ED, Vitamin D ED, Joint Formula ED, Carnitine ED, Zinc ED
Weeks 18-22 Clomid (start with 200 mg ED and work my way down)
*I have Nolva, HCG, IGF-1 LR3, and Clen on hand, but not sure if I have the experience to run IGF or HCG yet. Let me know what you think
Diet is roughly as follows:
5200 calories total
1600 from protein (400g) primarily from Chicken, Fish, Elk and Bison 31%
2400 from carbs (600g) 46%
1200 from fat (133g roughly) 23%
Workout Schedule
1 AM: Chest
1 PM: Quads
2 AM: Back
2 PM: Hams
3 PM: Shoulders & Calves
4 PM: Arms and Abs
5 PM: Cardio (stairmaster 1 hour)
REPEAT
A few quick notes: 1. I typically walk around at 187-190 with under 6% BF at most times. I eat very clean at all times and I do not drink often or smoke. I consistently get my 8 hours of sleep. I drink at least 2 & a half gallons of water a day, everyday. I lift as follows when bulking: 6 sets of a major movement for 3-6 reps as explosively as possible and as heavy as possible, 3-4 sets of a "feeler" movement like guillotine press, etc then finish with FST-7 style 7 sets. I lift hard and heavy and my goal everyday is to kill myself without over-training.
Questions: I want to take creatine while on cycle but don't want to overtax my body, yes or no to it? I would love to throw the IGF-1 LR3 post workout but I am not sure what the PCT might be with it, if any? or what the on/off protocol is? I have never had any gyno sides before but how would you rate a-dex vs letro at prevention while still allowing for great gains? I know my calorie intake is high enough for a bulk without AAS and it is all clean food but should I take GHRP to increase appetite to allow myself to take in more calories while on AAS? or are my calorie numbers good?
***All questions resolved. No IGF, No Creatine.
Primary goals from Cycle: Climb to atleast 210 or more while eating clean and staying relatively lean. Maintain as much, if not all, actual gains as possible. Get to a weight that will set me up for my next cycle (cutting).
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My suggestion would be >
WK 1 - 16 TEST E @ 500MG SPLIT PR WK.
WK 1 - 14 EQ(BOLD)@600MG PR WK.
No prop or d/bol kicker due to being first cycle start PCT 2wks after last test shot.
Only giving this advice because i know you are/will run more than one compound!this is the better safer option than deca at this stage! forget ghrp igf-1 at this stage you need to learn to "feel" the compounds with everything else in place i.e diet and training you WILL get the desired result from this stack,dont forget to get EVERYTHING in place before you set the start date FAILURE TO PLAN IS A PLAN TO FAIL! go do this thing then come back with some pics to show me what you got ok.
Do not run creatine with steroids use it after PCT.
I am going to do exactly this cycle. I have enough Test E on hand and my PCT is all good as well as my on cycle support. Just ordered 4 vial Kalpa Boldaxyl 300, so I will have enough for the whole cycle and then some. I will take some before and after and post them up
I am on boldaxyl 300 right now bro,no pip at all this stuff is smooth as butter and thats delt shots.
You get stuck at any point you PM me ok.
Will do boss, thanks for your help and advice
dbolzHave a look at Krealkalyn if you want to run creatine on cycle. All other creatine forms will stress your kidneys, krealkalyn doesnt bloat or dehydrates, doesnt convert to creatinine and you only need 2 capsules (1.5g total) on an empty stomach pre workout. Keep the other creatine forms for pct. +1 for your planning
I was thinking of an creatine in capsule form because some have already been ph balanced and the stress on the kidneys is much lower like you said. I usually prefer the powdered form because I like to feel the bloat and know my creatine is working but I am thinking if I do pick up some creatine I will follow your suggestions and do KreAlkalyn
Hmmm personally I've taken creatine on cycle... It's not the brightest idea if your running an oral compound which is already taxing your liver.. I did not notice it overtaxing my body when i tried it but i also wasn't taking an oral steroid at the time.. If your running dbol I would not take it..
If I run the D-Bol 4 weeks then pick up Kre-Alkalyn in week 6 (doubling my liv52 for the two weeks off and doubling my kidney support), that way I would get 6 weeks on the creatine and still give my liver two weeks to recuperate and my kidneys as well. If you still think its risky let me know.
i agree with everything said so far but just throwing this out there, i have a buddy in pharmacology school who helps me out with things from time to time and they do make kre-alkalyn in powder form. i use it and like it better cuz it forces me to mix it with water (some liquid) and drink an extra cup or two of water each time, now most of us here have the control of our diets to make them almost perfect and most of us know the importance of water. Then again too much water will lower the levels of vitamins and minerals in your blood and bodily reactions and can sometimes be worse than being dehydrated and can influence the health of the kidneys and liver also. (sorry bout the off topic water rant, im a nutrition major), but just because creatine is capsule form doesnt mean its kre alk because whats in that said capsule?...powder. But everything everyone has said i also agree with but after reading all the posts in this thread im lost as to if your going to include the dbol or not but just remember its your body and only you know the limits and what stresses you feel on and off a cycle.
No D-Bol ha and I am using just Test-E and EQ. I hear you on the water thing, and my intake is a personal preference due to a family history of hypernatremia (high sodium in the blood) so I have been drinking the large amount of water I do since I began intense athletics.
Great post bro! its clear you know your stuff re training also saw in your profile you are a nutritionist thats vey good also,i like everything you have laid down but would just like your thoughts on swapping the DECA for EQ (boldonone)in my eyes we could get far better leaner results without the problems DECA brings to the table being a 19nor compound.
Your thoughts on EQ please my brother then we can get this show on the road thanks.
Thanks for taking the time to fully complete your profile page and give all this excellant information i am going to give you +3 straight off for giving us all this info to start out with, this is how it should be done well done bro.
Any thoughts on IGF-1 LR3? I like what I have read but I have not spoken with anyone who has actually tried it and seen results. I feel like I may be too new to AAS and peptides on to use IGF and get it perfect.
I was thinking about EQ because it is more closely related to Test than a 19-nor like Deca. I also like the reported increase in appetite and the lack of progestin related sides. I think the weight gain might be better on Deca but after seeing you suggest it I will pick some up and swap the two out. Quality over quantity every time, thanks for the advice bossman.