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Favorite short ester cycle for lean bulk

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I was curious to see what people's favorite short ester cycles are. Also what what ratio do you typically run test:19 nor ?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Don't expect much from a shorts run for bulking bro... shorts are primarily targeted for cutting imo.

s1tacke7d's picture

Because of the sides is one of the reasons. What's your goals and why Winny? Ran a very similar 8wk cycle last summer, test p/npp were the same dosages as yours and had nice results from it. I love those two compounds. I ran var instead of Winny and caber instead of prami. Also was running hcg 2x wk and prov. I stayed vascular and added quality gains off that cycle. Run hcg along with that cycle. Pct?

j223's picture

Well if you are gonna use tren I'd go with a 1.5:1 tren:test ratio. Like 75mg tren and 50mg prop.

I have seen many people get good results with NPP in a lean bulk Specifically Test Prop/NPP and possibly anavar in addition.
Like this:
200mg eod Test prop, 100mg eod NPP, 50mg ed Anavar run the whole thing for 10 weeks.

since you asked about ratios, that's what I'd do. keep test a little below tren. Keep test 2x higher than NPP

Jonnyhottub's picture

Just posted this to another guy but it qualifies. To answer your first question on favorite short ester definitely test prop. For me it has the least sides and is extremely cost effective.

Never ran deca only tren so here is my experience with 19 nors

For me personally the two times I ran tren I only pinned 125mg test a week to keep the sides down. It's probably a bit of bro science mixed with fact but I read that proestrogen (think that's how it's spelled) can be impacted by high estrogen. So I just did what most considered maintanence test dose and .25 adex every three days. Did not experience any prolactin sides and ran tren acefor 8 weeks at 525mg per week.