Dbold Tren test and possibly var at the end? advice...
Hi guys this is my first post and I need some advice on what you think would be the best way to run this cycle. This is my 4th cycle im 28, 185 lbs 6'0" with ~10% bf. 1st cycle sust 250 only 10 weeks, 2nd superdrol/ finaflex (1-4 weeks) and sust 250 (1-10 weeks) . 3rd cycle superdrol (1-4 w/k) test prop 100 eod (1-12 w/k) Tren a 75mg eod.
Now, this is my 4th cycle I am running Dbol 50 mg ed (1-4 w/k), Test e 375 mg e3.5d (week 1-12.5), and Tren e 125 mg e3.5d (week 1-10). I also have adex .5 mg eod.
PCT is:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
I am thinking of getting more Test e and running the 750 mg dose another 4 weeks and including anavar at 50 mg ed to shred down and hopefully solidify the gains I have made I am currently finishing my fist week of the cycle and the dbol has been incredible to say the least. Any advice or tweaks to the cycle that anyone thinks is nessacary would be appreciated! Thanks guys!
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Ok was less then a week of running the gear do you guys think I should run adex or anything in my pct for a week or 2 till I get my weight back to 207? Also, I plan on eating before breakfast and before bed:
500ml whole milk.
100gs almond butter.
100gs ground oats.
2 scoops whey isolate.
1 banana to eat alongside.
THANKS! @Viking POWER
This should help get me to 207lbs.
But, once I'm there your saying keep the dbol at 50 mg ED till test e kicks in by week 4 at 750 mg EW for 16 weeks and just save the tren e for down the road and don't get vars for the last 4 weeks of the cycle? I also will use the adex ,5 eod and fallow the same pct cycle stated in beginning. Thank you guys for your help!
what are you doing? are you on cycle? finishing or what elaborate where your at....
Finished week 1 of the cycle listed above but stopped due to all the negative feedback..
good shit mate, eat, get nutrition in check, next cycle do test e with test prop kicker, no need for filthy tren, send me fr, ill help you in rite direction with food and get you prepped for decent cycle when ready....+1 mate..
FR sent flash and thank you! Your advice will be it to use 100%!
my advice is this.....even though this is your 4th cycle, you should only add one new compound each cycle, and you have never done test e or dbol......also you are pretty skinny, it seems like you could make a solid 15 or so pound gain without using any compounds whatsoever. eat eat eat, and ask some veterans here for advice, but i think the one new compound per cycle is great advice, and that is the protocol i follow for cycling ..... so that you know whats causing any kind of sides if you happen to see any. good luck
That comment was 14 hours ago brotha. We cleared the air 5 minutes ago. We both got hot, lets just keep it cool now. You didn't know the whole story and you were sticking up for a bro. That's admirable. It wasn't cool of me to talk that shit.
SeaHawkNationto all the guys saying his cycle is garbage.. i agree BUT also look at another thing hes ran 4 cycles! and hes 185lbs at 6'0............thats TINY especially for 4 cycles. are you ready for tren? NO are you ready for gear? nope. please head to the weight gain area and Me or someone will help you learn nutrition better.
I was a d-1 athlete with a lot of cardio and keeping lean at 207 I looked bigger
then guys at 230 easily but I'll look into ,ore of my diet since that's all the responses
Hey........... you were doing so well until i found out who you are!..... did you get permission to come back?
https://www.eroids.com/users/mperkinsss
Explain yourself bro....... i am all ears.....
SeaHawkNationno sir.
Your info has been good the last couple of days bro so that and your attitude as saved your skin on this occasion!............ stick around bro but dont go behind my back again please,,,,, +3 for being a man.
SeaHawkNationthank you sir. i dont deserve the +3 for going behind your back wasnt right of me. i really do love this place from helping and learning new things myself.
WTF......... 17.. 26 ... 40... You fucking with me and the system...................... BANNED.
excuse me young man ????? the 17 year old who lied to me and birdbear ...... now you won a promo! and it dbol! i dont know what too say to you, you need help!
And even earned himself a fanboy. Interesting.
did you keep the pms bro? 17. we spent good time with him, thinking he was 40....lol
Lol. Still got em. This fanboy of his is getting on my nerves. He can't seem to let it go.
pass it on to admin bro.
NO need bro............. i just banned him i didnt know these facts before, i wish you guys would speak up when shit like this happens in PMs...... if you only knew how many tards i have to keep an eye on, its mind blowing.
Well you got him the first time, I just didn't realize you didn't have the full story this time around. Thanks bro.
i forget em bro there's that many!........ thanks anyway for jolting my old head (head fucked) lol
Tard Watch... Wasn't that movie? ;-)
yeah...whats his face?.................... David Hassletard
Hahahaha!
He seemed to know some things about contest prep that you would not find searching on the internet at all. I think it was in a post about dropping gear before a show. Is the guy actually competing at 17? If he is, well that's it then - it's AAS all the way - no likelihood of stopping.
He did a lot of regurgitation of info he had read elsewhere. In pm's his real age and lack of knowledge shined through. He's not competing. He wants to go pro and "dedicate his life to bodybuilding" which is a foolish aspiration in my opinion especially given the fact that he also told me he wants to do all sorta of things that require a shit load of money. He also went on to tell me he is prepared to nix the idea of college to persue bodybuilding. Nothing mature or intelligent about that.
He shot himself in the foot with the "trust issue" bro.............. im old school with things like that so he had to go!..... looking at his recent self pic there's no competition look going on imo
Exactly. He told me "my friends in school say I'm a freak". Then I saw that picture and it made me wonder about his mental state...
Agreed............... Aint no freak in that picture bro, we had a dreamer onboard.
One new compound per cycle, including new estered compounds. In other words D-bol, Anavar, tren-e, and test-e are all new compounds. thats how you know your cycle is fucked up, anyone of these could and likely will give some kinds of new sides, mixed together like this your playing the guessing game trying to figure out what is going on.
RustyhookerCycle is garbage. Big foods dude. Cycle....all goofy. What's your goals? Food aline should have you over 200.
garbage how? goofey how? and as stated in the other posts I was 207 prior to issues in my life. My nutrition is fallowed: ( yes i have some cheat days and eat poorly but im a very very lean person to begin with)
Meal 1: 10 egg whites and 3 whole eggs=50g protein, 1.5 cup oats
Meal 2: 2. 8 oz. chicken breast=50g protein, 1.5 cup mashed sweet potato
Preworkout : 2 scoop whey=approx 50g protein,1 cup oats
Post workout: 2. 8 oz. chicken breast=50g protein, 1.5 cup brown rice
Meal 5: 2. 6 oz. lean mince/ground beef=50g protein, 1 cup mashed sweet potato, veggies
Meal 6: 2 .4 oz. tilapia fillets=50g protein, 1/2 cup brown rice
Meal 7: 2 cans of albacore tuna fish very low sodium in H2O=60g protein, 1 cup oats
Meal 8: Bedtime shake 2 scoops casein=50g protein, 2 tbsp. natural PB
My goal is to bulk my weight back to 200+ like I am accustom too then to lean and dry it out as much as possible to keep as much gains as possible.
RustyhookerYou can really eat your way back up to 200. Muscle memory is you luft hard n heavy. You'll pop right back up. THEN, just a simple first type cycle will blast you to 210. Not just cruise you to priors but hit new records.
Plus then with new diet going you'll keep tge new mass. It rwally is 100% food. I've erred before too. Correct mistakes first.
207 is still small on all that gear bro. I don't care if you're naturally built like a twig. So am I, learning to eat fixed that shit real quick. That diet looks nice but I know you're not really eating like that, and even if you are totally killing it on that diet you still need more. You gotta learn the way of the Jedi junk food bro, then you'll grow more. I'm not advocating a dirty bulk per se. But throwing in some calorically dense foods including some junk stuff will kick your growth into high gear. Simplify your cycles and quit running all these harsh compounds they're not getting you anywhere. You can bulk up fast as fuck naturally if you just put in the work. I did it and so can you.
Seems to me you love big heavy compounds and lots of em! but your stats dont relate to the cycles already ran?..... i think you have a nutrition problem bro
Also it says 32yrs old in your profile WTF is going on here?
when i made the profile I screwed up the age thank you for bringing it to my attention I will change that asap. Also the problem I had while was not nutrition it was a addiction that I am finally cleared from and glad to leave that dark part of my life behind. My weight prior to the addiction was 207 lbs with 7% bf. Also the cycles I took long breaks of over 10 months inbetween due to making sure I would pass any NCAA random screening.
This right here^^^^^^^
You should be my size having run all those hefty compounds. You need to learn how to eat. Matter of fact learn how to eat AND use drugs better cuz I've never even used half of the things you listed and I'm 70 lbs heavier, nearly same height, and between 4 and 6 years younger than you depending on what age you feel like going with.
superdrol, tren, high doses, multiple compounds no caber, bromo, or prami, no eroids street cred...... good night eroids..... enjoy. sigh.
In the past running tren I had no gyno issues so I did not need caber or prami but can easly be attained. The other cycles I was running adex, letro and nolva clomid pct to keep my E levels in check.
Tren does not convert to estrogen so you wouldn't notice Estrogen related gyno i.e. hard lumps sore/itchy nipples. It binds to the progesterone receptors and can cause progesterone induced gyno i.e. areolas get larger,and puffy. which if worsens causes prolactin issues meaning your tits leak milk. If you keep your estrogen in check then usually progesterone levels are in check. Caber or prami is used to control the prolacin sides and the possible ED sides. Some have it for an as needed basis some use it throughout entire cycle. So in short yes it's a good idea to have one of them on hand for any 19-nor compound.
That being said I still don't think Tren is needed, or most of the other compounds you have listed. You can get another 5-7 lbs of quality mass easy with food alone. I know cause I did it.
(http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/for-guys-that-seriously...)
5 solids meals and two of these shakes provided in the link will put it on in no time.
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sorry about that ima newbie I just removed the whole sentence thanks.
No problem bro...glad u got it taken out quickly...read the rules if you haven't already and listen to everyone above they're giving solid advice