Cycle TRT and anavar and possibly winstrol to aid in shoulder 7 month post - operation.
Hi all,
Just got somr THL anavar and winny -running it with some TRT. Had 2 major shoulder surgerys that arent healing / working after 7 months. I've been thru all the traditional rehab/ physical therapy. I'm just starting this small stack to kickstart the muscles into healing and working. This is my first cycle of anything ever @ 44 yrs old. Been training for 30 years - still doing that on a bit of a limited basis. I'm not lookin to get huge just basically get ripped up and get the shoulder working. Wanted something mild to stack on top of the TRT which I just started this week also. I know the var is basically a mild one that women use. I'm also stacking some winny too - (60 mg var . 30 mg winny). Training 4x a week hitting everything 2x a week. Can't wait for the 1st var / winny pump! I know that's not your typical backround / goalset here but the Dr did the surgery and was basically like "good luck with that" since it didn't heal the way it should have and I can't lift my arm past shoulder level.
Any thoughts on my aproach to this and how long till I get my first anavar pump? Been on a week as of today and still nothing.
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tread-mNeed quite a bit more info brother and maybe certainly bf numbers etc. Var is not a "womans" drug at all. In very low dose women use it but the numbers we use would cripple them! lol women use much of what we do in moderation given our differences but var is a very effective drug used right and in the proper scenario. As to a "heal" winnie is not my choice even though others might not agree there. I'm var and some peptides here with your trt dose and I think the heal is more productive. My guess is the actuall heal is over and now you are stretching out muscles etc. Anavar pumps are soon if everything is there in place but its not dbol so may be different than what you are expecting. For me I get lower back pumps with some accompanied discomfort, leg and especially calf pumps and yes , some degree of muscle pump in general. Bf% will predict the success you have with var and of course you say you want to get more ripped? Well consider given this is not your world that all goals are controlled in the kitchen. In your case some serious carb work will be in order with your var run if ripped is the goal. Remmeber, if you don't get the kitchen right ripped is very temporary if at all. You can't stay on compounds of that nature yr round and you can't maintain "ripped" with a diet or lack of compounds if you got the ripped with it in place. If diet gets you there then it will keep you there if kept in place. If compounds get you there, IF, then it all goes away once what got you there is gone. Whats bf% and what type of surgery?
I've been reading up on TRT w/ a Cycle as well--like how you emphasized diet. What sucks about me is, 'getting ripped in the kitchen' isn't 'as' possible with having to eat at a military DFAC. However, I like the emphasis (this post is a yr old so you may never get it but...thanks)
Hey Tread -
Yea - I know var isn't strictly for chicks I just know it is in lower doses, one of the least toxic and one that many women use as opposed to others that are harsher on their systems. I'm 44, 195 and 9% BF. I eat strict all the time mainly fruits and veggies as my carb source and meat and some dairy (yogurt and cottage cheese) as my protien sources. I feel my diet is pretty solid.
As far as the surgery, I has one about 19 months ago - 3 out of the 4 main rotator cuff tendons were torn completely. the Teres minor was the only intact one left. Couldn't get all my motion back and 7 months ago went in for a "salvage" procedure called a Lat transfer. This is where they take the lat where it attaches to the arm, cut part of it and attach it to the humerous where part of the rotator cuff once was. My tear was bad - both surgeries were "open" as compared to thru a scope. My cuff is fucked and there is a good amount of degenerative changes to the cartilige in the shoulder. I had the surgery done @ the Hospital for Special Surgery in NY. It's the best out there. Dr who did the second surgery said it looks like a bomb went off in there but says with the addition of the lat transfer he got full coverage of the humeral head.
I never usesd any hormones in the past - used to BB and compete in natural contests. I'm doing them now cause I think this will get my shoulder muscle back to the point where I can @ least get full active range of motion. I can still do all back worout movements - the teres major does the job of the lat that was transfered.
So I'm very serious about getting this to work. This is the end of the road for me since I'll workout till the day I die and also surf - that is my other motivation to get this thing working again. Currently I can't lift my arm any higher than shoulder high. I can do all forms of lat pulldows as this is pulling down not pushing up.
Let me know what you think. TN
tread-m.ok, well I'm personally staying away from drying type compounds at least for some time until you feel as thoughb you are there, whatever that may be in your case. Var would be ok in my opinion and when you hit a cycole I may lean you towards deca for a while with your test. I know for now you are leaning harden so I like the vargtest combo here for the moment. You will do well with it and may even feel the need to increase dose after a bit. You do the work brother, very nice stats! Still lean towards some peps or even an igf long for healing properties. Hoping I don't need the same surgery brother, my right is popping like crazy in the up/down of bench. Have been running through rehab procedures I got from Vike via a friend of his in that field and only doing wide flies which do not pop it so hopefully I fix it in advance of the need for surgery. Tough stuff you went through her, have a friend who went through a near exact situation recently.
Thx tread for the input - I've been reading that too. Decca is real good with healing the joints - now that would do what I'm looking for.
This is completely random, but on a side note. I notice you said you still do lat pull downs, I used to get shoulder injuries and they would never seem to go away. Even if i stopped shoulder presses and bench but continued other work outs. The culprit turned out being pull ups and lat pull downs. Not that I was using improper form but they also stress the joint and when its trying to heal it made it take much longer for me. Just my two cents. But idk when you started them and if its not like tread said and maybe its just trying to stretch back out.
Om - Yea - I just got the go ahead since the lst surgery to start doing pulldown and rows - workouts in general. Getting the streach of the pulldowns actuallfeel great. I don't think that is the cause or is contributing to this in my case but I do appreciate the input!