posted Thu, 06/18/2015 - 21:52
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Hello new to these Forums been doing a lot of research. this will be my first injection cycle... i have done halo, deca, 4-andro, SDMZ 2.0 & 3.0 in past ph wise.
i have a few verifying questions...
cycle:
weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E a week (1cc monday & thursday)
weeks 1-10: Estrogenex by Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals
PCT: start week 12... I have read many mixed statments on taking a 4 week pct or 2 week pct for only taking test... also read that some recommend nolva and clomid together and some say do one or the other...
also wouldn't a estrogen blocker work the same as Arimidex at preventing gyno wise, i have read that gyno forms usually off higher bf% and i am currently 5.5% BF
can i have some guidance in this confusion... thank you!
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Yes i did PCT after every PH cycle i did and i have gotten bloodwork before and after every cycle that i have done. I train with a guy name Matt Agnetti who won NPC nationals as a teen who is a cellucor athlete.
my workout split:
Monday: Back
Wide Grip Pull Ups 4 x 12-15 (Superset)
Wide Grip Pulldowns 4 x 12-15
Close Grip Pulldowns 4 x 12-15 (Superset)
Close Grip Seated Rows 3 x 12-15
Bent Over Rows 4 x 12-15
Deadlifts 4 x 8-10
Tuesday: Arms/Abs
Triceps Dips 4 x 8
Single Arm Triceps Pushdowns 3 x 10-12 (Each side)
Skull Crushers 3 x 10-12
EZ Barbell Curls 3 x 8-10
Single Arm Dumbbell Curls 4 x 8-10 (Each side)
Hammer Curls 3 x 8-10
Sit-ups 4 x 50
Side Obliques Twists 3 x 20 (Each side)
Planks 3 sets to Failure
Weighted Crunches 3 x 12-15
Wednesday: Legs
Squat 4 x 10
Hack Squat 3 x 8-10
Leg Press 3 x 12
Leg Extension 4 x 12-15
Thursday: Shoulders
Side Lateral Raises 4 x 10-12
Smith Machine Seated Military Press 4 x 8-15
Straight Arm Front Raise 3 x 15
Cable Rear Delts Raises 3 x 15
Front Barbell Shrugs 3 x 12
Rear Barbell Shrugs 3 x 12
Friday: Chest/Abs
Incline Barbell Press 4 x 10-12
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 x 10
Cable Fly’s 4 x 10-12
Incline Dumbbell Fly’s 3 x 10
Hanging Leg Raises 3 x Failure
Abdominal Crunches 3 x 10
Cable Woodchop 3 x 15-20
Saturday: Legs
Single-leg Hamstring Curls 4 x 10-12
Stiff-leg Lying Leg Curls 4 x 10-12
Weighted Walking Lunges 3 x 10-12
Seated Calf Raises 3 x 10-12
Smith Machine Calf Raises 3 x 30
Single-leg Calf Raises 4 x 20
My daily diet:
Meal 1: 120g Oats, 30g Blueberries, 10g Almonds & 30g of Whey Protein
Meal 2: 3 Eggs & 2 slices of Granary Bread
Meal 3: Tin of Tuna, 300g White Potato & Mixed Salad/Vegetables
Meal 4: 200g Chicken Breast & 80g Dry White Rice
Meal 5: 300g Steak, 200g Sweet Potato & Mixed Vegetables
Meal 6: 200g Salmon & Salad
So i should drop Estrogenex which is a estogen blocker for Arimidex? I have read that you dont always need Arimidex knowing its only 500mg a week for 10 weeks...
and week 13 should i do nolva 40/40/20 or do you recommend clomid...
so yeah after seeing pic your cycle is cool, run your test @ 500 per week, 2 shots, monday and thursday, have an ai on hand, adex or aromasin, and your pct will be nolva and clomid for 4 weeks minimum.
cool, dropping names of people doesnt mean shit too us mate, what is your real stats? your traing and diet look ok, i just want to be sure about your stats? whats your real body fat percentage? are you ripped as fuck? abs?
yeah i have really high vascularity and my abs are easily visible... how do you post a picture ill post one up.
perfect mate, if you are really 5% body fat at over 200 pounds, that is impressive! and the guy below will owe us cash hahaha.
go to community, - pictures, self shots, at the top it will say submit a picture.
blurr out face and any tattoos.
what do i type in for (Ordered from : *) since the photo is from my desktop
just type- eroids.com
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good shit mate, good condition, that guy owes us all 20 bux each!
lmao, i guess so! I am pretty dry right now also from a friends graduation party last night so just slight of the 200lb mark this afternoon... so that being said could i have some guidance now pct wise... for a 500mg cycle of test e ran for 10 weeks what would be best pct?
week 1-10: test e (monday and thursday1 CC)
weeks 13-15: Nolva 40/40/20
weeks 13-14: clomid 80/40
is a AI truly needed at a dose of 500mg, also knowing because of low bf%? should i just have it in hand if sides start to show up?
pct- nolva- 40-40-20-20- clomid-50-50-50-50
pinning is fine, maybe do 12 weeks bro.
ever researched proviron?
ai yes, have it on hand, you may not need it but if you get sides you will kick yourself, its cheap bro so dont cut yourself short, if you get gyno etc you will be spewing.
just did some research on it, used for a breaking point during cycles and the Mesterolone hormone is not estrogenic. It does not aromatize... correct?
would you recommend running this, if so where would it fit in week wise/ mg?
do a 12 week cycle is that what you mean? what Ai would you recconmmend noticed its controversial between some...
personally myself, i would run aromasin, i would run 6.25 ed starting week 4, proviron helps you free up more test and it has anti estrogenic properties, it is a steroid, mild dht, you could add it to this cycle if you want mate, and yes i would run the test for 12 weeks not 10, im going to send you a friend request now mate, find out a bit and point you in right direction of where to find stuff.
So what are you gonna do? There are some really good suggestions provided below. In fact, they are the best you will ever get, other than mine, which is hold the AAS and work on your foundation. What is your goal?
5.5% bf?! This man is ready to step on stage! I'd say you're measuring it wrong bud! Your profile says 7% by the way.
What does your diet and training look like?
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You know how low 5.5% BF is?
Post up a pic.
Skelator???lmao 5.5bf .... i got twenty bucks on him actually being 15%+
check the photo;)
I did bro looking good
I have. You're not at 5.5% BF, around 8%. I don't know where you guys get these numbers these days.
I agree 7%-8%...I did eat my own words though lol
dude, you owe us all 20 bux, i accept cash in the post!!! go check his pics
Lmao !!! I'll own up to it haha but what happend to the 8lbs in his stats I thought he was 205 not 197 ...but I'll admit when I'm wrong ... 7% yes 5% bf maybe ... Looking good though for sure ... I take back previous statement
lol! a few pound here or there doesnt matter, one of my mate can lose a kilo whilst hes sleeping and gain that back plus more by lunch time the next day, he had a special occasion last night so he said hes flat, hes def put the work in though, its good when a dude puts his money where his mouth is lol, cough cough.....
Lol hahaha
I think you won't be losing any cash.....
Lmao !!! Right
One thing is pretty consistent... people always underestimate their BF by at least half. 5.5% is shredded and hardly maintainable. I'm guessing he's actually 5.6%. LOL
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Stats
Age: 26
Height: 6'
Weight: 205
BF: 7%
all those pro hormone cycles are bad, you need to get blood tests before starting anything, did you take pct after those cycles? estrogenix what ever that is wont work, you need proper aromatise inhibitor for on cycle.
blue magnifying glass at top of page- research-
aromatise inhibitors (ai)
post cycle therapy
first cycles fr beginners
read, read, research then research again.
and what are your real stats? 6 foot 200 pounds at 5% body fat? i would like too see that. post pic.
Maybe after he's done using that estrgenix or whatever he'll post a pic of the new b cups lmao
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