Thoughts on this Bulking stack?
Weeks 1-14 test e 600mg (300mg Monday & 300mg Thursday )
Weeks 1-12 Deca 400mg (200 mg Monday & 200mg Thursday )
Weeks 1-14 Eq 400 mg (200 mg Monday & 200mg Thursday )
Weeks 1-6 Dbol 50mg ED
Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
PCT; start week 16: Clomid 50/50/25/25 ED & Nolva 40/40/20/20 ED
also been reading a lot about stacking aas with peptides and sarms. read some people say sarms get over powered with aas but read "there is NO and i mean NO correlation whatsoever in sarms rendering any less effective with anabolics and in fact, it only makes them shine more... sarms possess so many qualities, providing extreme versatility and the abilities to enhance an enhancer, taking things to an entirely different level.. anyone saying otherwise has no clue nor concept on their effectiveness and that's generally an argument made by someone who has never used them whatsoever..."
and this man seems very backing of his knowledge enough to argue multiple forums I've read from "DylanGemelli" i wanted to ask EROIDS knowing this has always been my forum of choice since day 1.
Peptides and sarms i was looking into were:
LGD
RAD
YK11
IGF-1 lr3 40mcg ED
GHRP-2 & cjc1295 without dac
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Dylan Gemelli's from my understanding has never done steroids before. I've spoken to him more than once two years ago and he's a nutritionist for a living. He works at a gym and all he does is come up with nutrition and diet plans for people to lose weight or gain muscle. I believe in that area he's very good at his job, however like most people he wanted to build more of a name for himself and of course talking about steroids get a lot more attention. If you look at his YouTube channels you would notice that he's switched four different companies over the last couple years that he is represented and marketed. So my opinion on him is that if you were looking for help regarding food intake he's a good source. However when you were getting steroid information he reads it from the Internet and you can tell that when you watch his documents. All he does is read off the same information that we can find. He's a nice guy and everything but he probably weighs 170 pounds and he's never done a steroid.
If you want to know about Dylan Gemelli's knowledge just look at him. You weigh about 50 lbs more than that dude. He's just trying to make money. He pushes sarms and N2BM products and swears his lift on them because he sells them. Don't trust a word out of that dudes mouth. Everything he says is to brainwash people into giving him money.
Like makwa said below, you have no need or added benefit of stacking 4 compounds. I'd drop the test to 4–500, MAYBE keep an oral kicker OR (not and) the eq in there (i wouldn't go dbol but that's personal preference), eat like a motherfucker, work hard & get at least 8 hours of sleep. You'll be happy with the outcome, and it won't be much different than if you used all the shit you have listed above without having to worry about the sides that come with all you have listed above.
Remember, just because your test is dosed at 300mg doesn't mean you have to do 300mg at a time. if your test is dosed at 300mg/ml, if you fill your syringe to .65cc you have 200mg, and if you fill it to in between .8 & .85 you have 250.
Dylan Gemelli is an idiot.
More perfect words haven't been written.
so all in all is EQ and Deca truly worth stacking based on there "great synergy " or would it be best to drop EQ? with my goal in mind to bulk hard?
Also since everyone says to not run sarms on cycle would anyone recommend peptides who have experince with such compounds such as
IGF-1 lr3 40mcg ED
GHRP-2 & cjc1295 without dac
for gh pulses and such while on aas?
Hey man,I'm on my 4th cycle and all I have ever done is test e with a prop kicker and got great gain.10 years ago I was about 155lbs put on 20natty got me to 175lbs,I'm sitting at 208lbs and maintaining just from test.I kept saying I wanna try something different in the mix.
These guys talk me down and make me realize test is really all you need.i would hate for you to complicate your cycle.i would really listen to what they say bro.they are telling you so you don't get jammed up.good luck man.
Send me your peptides and the dbol and deca to make sure it is real. Note: you must send all of it! Thanks bulkdaddy!
You are only 2 cycles deep so there is absolutely no need to be stacking 4 different AAS and I also wouldn't be going near any 19-nors at this stage of the game.
No clue who this Dylan guy is but I have been there and done that with AAS combined with SARMS and it is a totally waste. Save the SARMS for off cycle, you aren't going to get anything out of them while on cycle.
I read a research study the other day that motivated me to never even try SARMS. it concluded they mess up you lipid values quite bad and within the matter of only a few days of starting .
did you ever notice that when you ran them?
Never got bloodwork when running them solo so I am not sure where my lipids were. I Have gotten bloodwork while on cycle and taking them and my lipids were whacked but that was likely due mostly to the orals.
I just mentioned him due to him always arguing his points as if hes a sales person. Thank you for clarifying!
lol he is a sales person, buddy. you hit the nail on the head.
Testrogen_PropC...I just want to make sure you understand that SARMs and anabolics compete for the same (androgen) receptors, and this cycle has a shit load of gear in it, and your body only has so many androgen receptors to recept with. The compounds with the strongest binding affinity for the androgen receptor will win.
Since youre not on TRT and need to restart HPTA, i would drop the EQ, Dbol and YK11. Test and Deca is plenty to put on a shit load of mass IMO. And with the Equipoise and dbol I feel all they're going to do is make it harder for you to recover in and after PCT
Good point...but recovery from nandrolone requires hcg, plus DA control with caber. PCT drugs will need to be extended to six weeks based off the cycle doses. OP could pulse the DBOL for 2 weeks on/2 weeks off to control bloat, but aid in strength....now we need a liver supp...geeez...it never ends....
Ive read/ heard multiple times EQ and Deca having a great synergy affect when stacked together based on the peoples results and having different structures . Thank you for clarifying the receptors. I've read so many mixed arguments of sarms making new receptors to amplifying the results of aas to being over powered and not worth the money and etc. so thank you!
Testrogen_PropC...Anytime brother. And I commend you on being open minded/listening. If you end up using SARMs, by FAR the best time to use them is inbetween cycles. It's hard to say for sure because so little research has been done on SARMs at this point, but my educated guess would be that SARMs aren't powerful enough to cause the body to create new androgen receptors. That could also be person to person dependent though.
I have been noticing a trend, so to speak lately. The younger the person, the more drugs they think they need..... I guess its that whole belief that they think they are invincible and immune to the reality of the damage that will occur as a byproduct to their poor choices...
Ive read many things about deca and eq with both longer esters have a great synergy affect working together that was my reason behind trying to stack both of them.In past i have done eq and loved the hard grainy vascularity effect it gave me and the gains were very solid after pct. I am just trying to maximize the potential of the cycle since hate missing out on not taking something "small" that could make a" big difference" in the long run of the cycle
That's not the way it's done! You're starting to sound like a steroid junkie! Your foot loose and fancy free attitude is gonna get YOU fked up, bro!
You do that by focusing on your diet and training. Trying to throw everything under the kitchen sink into your cycle isn't going to maximize it.
Literally speaking...you don't know what we're gettin', now these days...lol..jk
With AAS it is probably everything stashed in the sock drawer instead of under the kitchen sink.
Ha..
No. Let's rework this and start with your diet and goals first. Way too many drugs.
Are you comprehending what you're reading...
Goals are to bulk up a ton for next show in future before i show prep which isnt for awhile . my marcros for my last cycle was 328 protein 537 carbs 159 fat.
Well if that's true, then you know your BMR, I'm sure. If your goals are mass and bulk, then your calories are what number?
rounded off;
BMR: 2,078
TDEE 3,585
10% increase for bulk 3,943
correct ?
Yep...I agree with what Makwa is saying, too regarding higher caloric intake on last cycle...
It's about knowing how your body is gonna respond to the type of food you eat, too. Carbs with a low-glycemic index will benefit you, animal proteins have to be your main source of protein, too. The cleaner your diet, the better your physique. Vitamins would help give you an edge and convert your food to more energy.
Also, I've said this in the past, research blood-type diets and incorporate those types of foods at the appropriate times into your diet.
If you were able to put down 5K cals for your last bulk and had good results I would be shooting for over 5K this time around since your bodyweight is more now also. No sense to eat less than your last bulk if you got good results from it.
RustyhookerHow bout real stats, priors and goals?
I'll be back to this later....
my stats are posted in profile and even posted a picture awhile back to prove the stats due to people not believing they are real in past. https://www.eroids.com/pics/before-cycle-8
Current weight as of today is 205lbs @ 6' since broke collar bone and lower back racing lost a lot of weight over recovery.
Prior:
Weeks 1-4: Halo Extreme - 3 caps daily (am)
Weeks 1-4: Decadrol - 3 pills a daily (am)
Weeks 1-4: 4-Andro Rx - 4 caps daily (am)
Weeks 7-10: Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily (pm)
Weeks 1-8: Advance Cycle Support Rx - 3 caps daily (prior to bed)
Weeks 7-10:E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (pm)
Weeks 1-10: test e 350 1/2 cc Monday & 1/2 cc Thursday
Week 1-12: arimidex .50 mgs Every other day
Weeks 1-4 D-Bol - 50mgs ED
Pct:Week 13-16: Nolva 40-40-20-20 & Clomid 50-50-50-50
700 mg test e, 400mg EQ but bumped EQ to 600mg halfway through for about 14 weeks
never had any problems getting shut down or gyno or to much water retention when the ai was in use. and my blood work has always came back well with my doctor i work with who knows i am on aas and use to monitor my levels for racing and mma before my injury
it seems like each Cycle you make a huge jump in dosing and compounds. my guess is you will still make really good gains with lower doses and fewer compounds. more is not always better, especially when talking about steroids and heavy compounds. your body and androgen receptors can only utilize so much at any given time. the rest is floating around being converted into other hormones and byproducts leading to more unnecessary side effects.
everyone wants to be huge yesterday but you have to evaluate the benefits to risk ratio. why don't you try a more basic Cycle. what's the worst that could happen? gain a couple less pounds? in the end you will be in better physiological shape in 10 years and be happy your didn't go over board.
deca for you I think is just totally unnecessary. I would really.like to see what you blood work is like right now.
Based upon your two previous cycles, the one you posted above is clearly way overboard and I would highly recommend that you steer clear of it. Keep it simple and worry more about food and diet than stacking all kinds of compounds.
Did you like the EQ run? What's your current BW look like, you have any copies? And, how long have you been off steroids?
Look, bro, always keep in mind that when you use AAS, it's your responsibility in the long run, not someone else's! You may, or may not, have a doc that helps you, who knows, but at the end of the day you make that decision to push that pin and inject, not someone else!
Be safe, bro!!
Goal? To be the biggest SOB alive!
OP gonna be fked up like polio when that PCT doesn't jump start his hpta...lol..
the fkt up like polio comment had me laughing my ass off
What is HPTA? Never heard of her!
It's not a car...lol...you're kiddin', right?
Sounds more like a TV! Lol but yes I'm kiddin!
I figured you was kiddin, bro...
Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis....
Glad you're here...lol...