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What's up guys..

So here's the deal I have been off AAS for 17 weeks. I last completed a 18 week run of test E 600mg/ tren e 600mg/ mast e 600 (first 4 weeks was just test solo)

I've been into AAS for 5 years now several cycles and compounds used.. All LONG esters as for injects.

My question... I want to stay lean and avoid bloat so it's time to switch to short esters. Therefore I was wondering if my plan was to run 2 cycles. One immediately, for 8-10 weeks of test prop @ 400mg solo or test p/tren a 400/300mg. Then the plan after I complete either of those and do my pct...take a 10 week break and come back with test p/tren a cycle for 8-10 weeks then I'll take a loooong break of 20+ weeks so essentially the question is do I run tren in both or these cycles or should I only do tren once so I don't beat myself up. Tren was a lil rough on my bp last time so i don't wana over do. Thanks guys! All help is appreciated

Fyi im 31, 5'10 210lbs 10% bf currently totally healthy

Pale's picture

And to add to what these guys said to you. If you want to avoid bloat the single best way is to stay hydrated. Shorts or longs won't matter if you aren't drinking lots of water. I like Vitamin C as well.

irongame427's picture

Well first off you don't need I run short esters to stay lean an avoid bloat. The difference will be marginal at best and probally only noticeable in the final stages of contest prep Diet and drug selections are gonna keep you lean an dry. I've seen some guys dry and lean on high test and deca ( Viking our old beloved moderator). So diets gonna be key. Then next you'll obviously hold more water running deca then eq, of dbol insted of var etc. so if you like long esters stick with it .

I don't really understand why your plan is to run two cycles? Idk about you but my future cycle plans change frequently depending on how the first/current one goes. So my suggestion to you is pick your goal and plan a cycle that is geared towards those goal. If you wanna give short esters a shot go for it. But depending on the brewer prop can be awfully painful and your muscles don't reall every get use to it like virgin muscles and long esters. So just think about the possibility of having bad pip from every shot and pinning eod. Or you find a great source and it's near painless. Ive had both. But prop solo would be a good cutting cycle. I would say add proviron it will make for a great cutter and the proviron will add a mild androgenic component to the cycle keeping you dryer more vascular harder and also free up a lot of bound testostrone.