Cycle Choice and what do to after...
So here's what I'm looking at....
Test C 500mg for wk 1-16
Halodrol (converts to tbol) @ 100mg for wk 1-6
EQ-Plex (converts to Equpoise) @ 1000mg for wk 1-10
Anavar and/or Winny wk 13-16
OR
Test C 500mg for wk 1-16
Dbol @ 50mg wk 1-4
Anavar and or Winny wk 13-16
Goal here is for lean gains/recomp. Cycle 1 has prohormones simply because I already have them, and I need to use them at SOME point. I'm not going to shell out money for extra gear when I have stuff I can already use.
I was thinking about just crusing at a TRT dose when I come off ~200mg a week. I guess my thought is I don't want to totally lose all my gains. When crusing at a trt dose, would there be any risk of shutting myself down permanently? More or less just supplement my own natural levels with a bit of test to keep my levels on the high end of normal.
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waltrfor a first cycle the general recommendation is:
Test C or E: 500mg week pin monday/thursday 250mg each day 10 weeks
you'll need an anti-estrogen med such as arimidex(anastrazole) or aromasin(exemestane) which you would wanna start like week 3 with .25e3d or 12.5eod respectively and run throughout the cycle
post cycle therapy to restore you test production naturally would look like
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
those are mgs, daily and its week1/week2/week3/week4
you'd also probably wanna run aromasin through PCT at 12.5EOD
if i were you i'd just go easy on the first cycle and see how you react
Isnt it supposed to be ran for 12weeks since test e/c are both long esters and most gains are seen at week8-12
10 or 12 wks for a first test cycle is adequate bro...... back in the day 10wks was the norm but thesedays it seems 12wks is the way to go... maybe SRCs dreamt this up to sell 2 bottles instead of one ?????
Anti-E is covered with topical formestane @ 100mg per day
PCT is also already covered
As I said previously....not first time doing a steroid.....first time with test though
BOOOOM.... +3 my man this is THE cycle for this OP,,.... nothing else.
Hell yeah there's a risk in shutting yourself down permanently cruising at a trt dose. Not advised my man
Yeah it just seems from a lot of the clinical and anecdotal research I've read/seen that it seems like you lose SOME of your gains when you come off completely. Why not just drop to a smaller dose of test and cruise...
It's still something I'm thinking about but not completely sold on yet....still doing research and getting opinions and asking questions
If you do that you're gonna be on trt the rest of your life. That's a lot to think about homie.
waltrwhen you put test in your body that's not natural you are suppressing your natural production, even a trt dose is gonna tell your body that it doesn't need to produce test because there's some coming into the body anyway.
how old are you?
is this your first aas cycle?
Stats? age,weight, BF% etc before any of the guys will offer info please.
Age: 28
Height: 6'0
Weight: 210
BF: would guess around 15% (I have women tell me that in the abs area I have a V, but no definition in the middle)
Not sure what my maxes are currently at but I'm benching 315 for a few reps, Squatted 365 for reps (could have taken it into the 400s but decided not to), and deadlifting around 365 also (have a slipped disc injury that like to crop up on occasion so I try to do over do it on my DLs)
First cycle using injectables....have ran dozens of oral cycles....decided to quit being a pussy lol
Whats all this talk about TRT dosage... have you any clue WTF damage you are about to do yourself....... Tear this whole plan up right now before you straight fuck up brother..... first cycle is test E ONLY.. THATS ALL YOU GET HERE.
Brother if you go ahead with this plan you will end up with a pussy.......... ears pinned back time for you here listen to the guys they will put you straight but do not start arguing back or this thread will be shut down.... the advice you get here will be the BEST.... disregard everything else you have heard my guys know their shit ok.
Sorry man didnt want it to seem like I was arguing back....thanks for the advice