posted Wed, 04/05/2023 - 15:09
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Cycle and gear for endurance athletes.
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What’s a favorable cycle to run for those who need to keep high levels of cardio while building strength and some mass. For example… someone training in MMA or long distance running.
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What’s your cycle history bud? Lay out your 2 cycles. Any sides? Oestrogen control required? I can see from your stats you’re a big lad already. Your goals are more mass? Roids will all add strength so that’s a given. The distance running is where it gets tricky, at least that’s what I’ve found.
Both cycles were Test c only. First was 400mg/week for eight weeks followed by pct. Second cycle I ran at 600mg/week for 12 weeks followed by pct. Only experienced mild sides on the second cycle, estrogen got a little high but after taking .25mg of Nolva EOD for only one week and sides went away. I experienced these sides week seven of my second cycle. I went from 255 to 270 last cycle, I was trying to bulk. Right now I’m sitting at 262 around %15 bf. My goal isn’t so much to gain mass at this point, but to rather lean out. I don’t run long distances, but I do participate in cardio demanding activities. I tend to put on lean mass naturally when I do any type of exercise, not like a freak BB but I do bulk well. Strength and cardio is key for me.
You’ve obviously done a little research as you headed in the EQ direction. I’ve ran I several times and it makes cardio easy plus I get some strength gains. Nothing crazy but they do come on. Downsides of EQ is it’s going to send you RBC count through the roof so it’s recommended you give blood at week 8ish. You also tend to run EQ at least 14 weeks up to 18 weeks with you test C/E run another 2 weeks after due to the longer ester of EQ. This can be a long time suppressed and the long PCT can be a bitch.
So you can either go;
Test 300-500mg with eq 400-600mg a week. Test ran two weeks longer.
For a shorter cycle you could run your test C again at say 600mg a week and add 50mg of proviron a day.
This will is an easier cycle to recover from and you may find the provi sorts out the minimal sides you had before. Is has some anti e effects.
Test and provi cycles are just nice to run. Horny and fuck, feeling great.
This could be a 12 week cycle.
Anavar destroys my cardio. I’m on it now. I was at 50mg/d and I’ve had to drop to 30mg/d and that’s still giving me bad back pump when I run even taking taurine.
You might be different but that’s my experience.
As a side note, nolvadex is used to block e2 at the nips. It’s not really for controlling e2 levels floating around you body. Great for stopping gyno though so I assume you got itchy nips? Do a little more research on aromasin and adex and have one on hand before the next cycle.
I take it your pct worked fine? I highly recommend getting bloods done before and after pct. I didn’t when I was younger and regret it.
Any questions, give us a shout and good luck mate
This is good stuff, thank you. My plan is to run a 16 week cycle. Test 400mg/EQ 400 with 25mg Var weeks 1-5.
Yes, my nipples were sensitive, but nolva took care of it. I had bloods taken before, during, and after my cycle. I’m paranoid about these things. PCT was successful, I bounced back to normal quickly.
For high RBC, I’ve learned from some medical professionals (Medical Doctors), that donating blood for help keeps RBC in check. Definitely something I will be monitoring though.
I’ll research provi and thanks for the advice.
Go 2 weeks longer with the test man. The eq has an extremely long ester attached to it so it will have an extra two weeks to clear.
Anavar isn’t usually used to kick start a cycle. It’s traditionally used as a finisher.
I personally wouldn’t use it this cycle. If you were desperate to get your mojo on asap you could run a little prop kicker? Like 100mg eod for the first 2 weeks.
If your set on anavar, your cycle would be better ran;
Week 1-16 test
Weeks 1-14 eq
Anavar weeks 12-18 var at 20mg-50mg dependent on sides. Pct 3 days after last var.
I personally don’t think you’ll need the var on this run. Once the eq kicks in at week 7 or 8 you’ll get what I mean.
It’s best to only introduce one compound at a time. It’s hard to determinee what’s doing what otherwise. Again, you’re welcome to learn from my past errors or you can learn for yourself.
Also EQ will make you eat like a horse. Dependent on goals be prepared for that. You’ll be wanting a whole pizza for a starter. Fucking nuts mate
Honestly I’m in no hurry rush anything. I’ve been on the fence about adding two compounds on top of test and you’ve just convinced me not too. The Var can wait. If no sides develop and I still feel good, I’ll definitely run test for those two extra weeks. I know people who’ve gone much longer without issues. I’ll be starting this test/EQ cycle within the next two weeks and I can post bloods for whoever is interested.
Good advice from GSXR and good attitude from you taking it on board.
Good luck mate. EQ is a great compound. Very versatile. I’ve had a tendency in the past to overcomplicate cycles and you can get in a right mess. It’s all about the training and diet for the most past. Keep the cycles nice and simple and allow your hard work do the talking.
RustyhookerBoom...+2
You've been here for 3 mos. How many cycles have you done previously? I see you have posted on several Src threads. What's going on here? Did you get this figured out on your own?
I’ve done two beginner cycles previously. Not sure what you mean by “what’s going on” or if I “figured it out on my own”? If you mean what gear have I used, just test c.
I asked because I saw you posting recently in the Src area and didn't know if you figured it out and ordered gear. I don't flame. Winstrol and Anavar are good "beginner" orals to try for endurance. Winstrol is known for it's endurance qualities but hard on the liver and for me personally caused an alarming amount of shedding hair and bad acne so I switched to Var. If you choose Var start low dose and work your way up because the calf, lower back and abdominal pumps can/will be debilitating. Best of luck to you!
RustyhookerJust wait til var pumps his calves on long distance and bout 200yards into the run and hes crippled til pumps leave
That’s what I’ve heard and I’m already prone to that as well. Does dosage effect these pumps?
RustyhookerNot that ive noticed. I love var but its not for what youre planning. Few peptide guys on gere brag about endurance from a pep but i cant remember which one.
I’ve decided to hold off on Var this cycle. I’m f you’re talking about cjc1295/ipamorelin, people are better off just running hgh. There is others, but I don’t know any that are good as cardarine or sr-9011. This give cardio boosts from day one.
Appreciate the input. To answer your question, I did settle on some gear. I’ll be running Test along with EQ and low dose Var like you mentioned. Not sure if I want to run Var and Eq at the same time because if I get sides, I won’t know which one could be causing them. Also, from from what I’ve gathered, EQ takes a while to “kick-in”. My plan is to run a 16 week cycle. Feel free to critique.