Cutting Cycle
Hey folks,
I am looking to run my last cycle before fall (going off to medical school!!!) and wanted your opinion on a few things. Currently I am thinking of running this:
Test Propionate: 125 eod for 12 weeks
Equipoise: 300 mg/wk for 12 weeks
Winstrol: 50 mg eod for 6 weeks
Arimidex 0.5mg eod x12 weeks
PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50
I want some suggestions on how to diet properly for a cycle like this to achieve the best results for cutting and maintaining a good physique. Currently I am taking in about 2500 calories (200g protein, 100g carbs, 50g fat). Quite honestly I have been debating whether I should lean bulk or cut and currently I am leaning (no pun intended) towards cutting. I have run the orals at the first 6 weeks and it has worked well in the past but I read that it's good at the end as well so I could use some of your wisdom on the issue. Thanks for helping a noob out.
Stats:
5 foot 11 roughly
197 lbs
~13% BF
25 years old
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With your stats you really only need to diet to cut....... i really cannot see the point in running gear whatsoever in this scenario?
I have been trying to diet but I feel like I've muscle because my strength has gone down a lot. I also just wanna get in a cycle because I know I won't be touching any gear for a long time. From your experience, would you recommend a lean bulk or a cut? I am still on the fence about it and although I am leaning towards cutting, I am open to suggestions and wisdom from more experienced people
lol... i cannot say what you should do bro thats your choice ultimately.
Now... if i was your coach and you were paying for my services to become a competition Bodybuilder.... i would have you on a solid bulk for a minimum of 2yrs to lay down some real solid density,,,, when we decided to cut your eyes would pop out and bounce off the deck because of the way you would look..... 3D solid hard cut muscle mass with veins likes snakes running all over the shop lol
You paint quite a vivid mental picture. Fuck it, I am bulking!
AnonSo now it's scratch and back to drawing board?
What have you run in the past?
I have it in the write up above. I ran test E on my first cycle with dbol (felt like superman when on but like stephen hawking after stopping) and Test C and Anavar on my second cycle. I think I might run test and dbol again
AnonI'm not big on orals they're ok but I prefer injectables only... But I don't think your ready for deca
AnonYou felt like a genius after stopping the test/dbol? ;-P
My personal opinion and I love EQ. It is my favorite compound. It's too low and too short to really grab the recomp benefits. Only trouble is a lot of people struggle with diet on it. I'm not one of them so it works well for me
Thanks for the wisdom guys. My first cycle was:
Test E 750/wk x12
Dianabol 25mg ed x6 wk
PCT: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
2nd Cycle:
Test C 600 mg/wk x12
Anavar 50 mg ed x6 wk
Arimidex 0.5 mg eod
PCT: Nolva and Clomid
My diet right now is not as stable as I would like. I planned for a something along the lines of 50% protein, 30% carbs, 20% fats. I don't know what would be a good amount for calorie intake. I weigh about 197 lbs with 13%bf. I really need to figure out the diet first and buy the meats and etc in bulk and start getting recipes and experimenting with cooking before I give this a go so I could use some advice here.
I obviously don't know as much as you guys on equipoise. My main goal is to cut as much as possible and am open to suggestions regarding equipoise and other compounds which would help me in my quest. I haven't run propionate before but read that it's a good choice for cutting, and as for winstrol I will make it ed instead of eod. My most recent cycle can be found here:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/intermediate-cycle-of-the-gods
Also, if I have to run eq for 16 weeks I might just scratch it out completely because I am planning of starting in May and ending by the end of July. School starts in August and I don't want to be in time crunch for my PCT. I am open to your suggestions and alternatives to eq, or if I should just got with Test and Winstrol alone. Thanks again
What do you mean by, 'school starts'? Are you 25??
There is a TDEE calculator in this post to help get your diet on track.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/i-know-my-tdee%E2%80%A...
Thanks for the link. Basically I should drop 250 per month instead to increase it to notice a change in my weight loss, correct? Just wanted to clarify
Yes. If you drop your cals about 500 below your TDEE you should lose about a pound of fat/wk with minimal or no muscle loss.
With that macro breakdown you are closer to 1700 calories. You need to get your diet straightened out first. Need cycle history before we can give any advice on cycles.
Hitman gave you some good pointers. In my personal experience(everyone is different mind you), I get little to no results from EQ being ran that low. Something that would make more sense is running test E or cyp with the EQ, because they have similar half lives in your system. EQ should be ran 16 weeks minimum in my opinion. Also the winstrol every other day wouldn't be something I would do either, that means your levels are peaking then completely diminishing every other day. I wouldn't want to put my body through that roller coaster, I think every day would be more intelligent. You're young man, and if you haven't run any cycles I wouldn't recommend one at all. From how you worded things you've ran a cycle before, but you might want to give prop/test e a run with some winny towards the end. You're going to whatever you have your mind set on, but you should truly research EQ before you run it. If you get your diet right and training on point, the results will come. Steroids don't mean you'll get huge, as hitman said if you don't eat for the results you want it'll make cycling pointless.
Hitman187Several things need work. The dose of eq is too low as well as the length your running the eq. Eq takes a good 8-10 weeks tostart kicking in, you wanna run it for a minimum of 16 weeks. test prop wouldnt be good with this cycle, pinning eod for 16 weeks, even at your proposed 12 weeks, will get old very quick. Also study up on different ester half-lifes, and how long they stay in your system. Eq stays in the system way longer than test prop. If you stop both compounds at week 12 and begin pct, the eq will still be in your system for most of your pct. I also see no mention of an ai protocol inplace incase its needed. And most importantly, have your diet plan down solid before beginning any cycle. Diet is the most important part, it will make or break your cycle.
Why would u run test prop and eq? What's your cycle history
X2, I would like you to enlighten us on your past cycles my friend.