posted Sat, 09/29/2012 - 09:08
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Brothers 4th cycle
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Stats:
Age: 29, height: 5"10, weight:240, bodyfat: 14%
Cycle history:
First cycle: week 1-4 dbol 40mg ed, week 1-12 test e 500mg
Second cycle: week 1-12 test e 500mg, week 6-14 100mg var ed
Third cycle: week 1-12 test p 75mg ed, week 1-12 mast p 75mg,week 1-12 100mg var ed
Proposed 4th cycle:
Week 1-12 test p 50mg ed
Week 1-12 mast p 50mg ed
Week 4-12 tren ace 50mg ed
Week 6-12 winstrol 50mg ed
Week 1-12 0.5mg adex EOD
Week 12-16 nolvadex 40/40/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50
(reason hes running 50mg ed is because the source he and i use has a blend of 50mg testp/mastp/tren ace)
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STAY AWAY from tren PERIOD!!! He is to young and inexperienced Stay away from blends also. This is a cutting cycle so if you want that try something like this,
1-14 test prop 50mg/d
1-12 EQ 600mg/w
7-12 var or wins 50mg/d
Great results and much safer. Fourth cycle you are still getting your feet wet understanding what works best for you. But instead you are just diving into the deep end without knowing how to swim. Tren is a last resort. IMO
is that short ester EQ?
No I know eq should be ran for 14-16 weeks but 12 weeks will show gains. I didn't start doing more than 12 week cycles until my 8th. I always say play it safe especially like I said when your still getting your feet wet
do yourself a favor and dont use a blend! They sound great until something starts acting up, then you cant adjust shit!
smallguyYikes, I cant even comprehend that. Good luck to ya bro!
Tren is a bad idea. The guys voiced it to save buddy feom hassles. Whats his goals?
This is why ppl dont like blends u are going to run. Test tren and mast all at the same dose...and 350/wk at that... The tren and test fight for receptor and tren ALWAYS WINS....right cdaddy....lol
cdaddy7Correct my man...Tren is the big gun for when all measures of diet/nutrition, training and right compounds have been exhausted...which in my experience would take more then ten cycles +.....LOL
A 12wk short ester cycle is a rough road my man
cdaddy7Thanks H, thats a lot and his bf is too high for some of those compounds...def needs a good diet and cardio routine to get bf in optimal range before those cutting compounds
Its a 4th cycle, it doesn't have to be clever or complex...
Something like:
Wk 1-4 test p 100eod
Wk 1-12 test e 500 ew split
Wk 11-14 mast p 100 eod
Wk 13-14 test p 100 eod
have ai on hand and let diet and training do the work
...is all that is needed at this stage of cycle history
smallguyLooks pretty sick
He'll be Hella cut if diet is on. Nice!
cdaddy7This cycle is plenty enough to yield u the gains u seek with a diet dialed in....
Week 1-4 Test P @150mg/EOD
Week 1-14 Test e @ 250mg/week split
Week 1-14 1Test @ 500mg/week split
Week 1-14 EQ @ 600mg/week split
Week 13- 16 Test P @150mg/EOD
***AI your choice--Arimidex .25mg e3d or Aromasin 12.5mg eod starting no later than week3 and up to the day of PCT
cdaddy7Def need to reconsider the Tren...your bf is too high for winny...it should be at 9% or lower to cut u down...ortherwise u will have great strength and dry achy joints...same thing with the mast....bf needs to be lower...Adex is too high...only .25mg e3d
BenchanitorWhy reconsider tren? He actually gets no sodes and he has pinned ed before if u look at cycle history.
Plenty of gains to be reached before tren should be introduced.... If you are not competing then tren is a place to go once you plateau... 4 cycles isn't even close to plateau
cdaddy7I'm not a fan of Tren unless you have ten cycles under ur belt...ur best options would be above
There's no mention of tren in his cycle history unless I'm being blind???
BenchanitorNo but everyone needs to start somewhere
smallguyArnold didnt have Tren. Neither did Sergio Olivia. Or Bertil Fox. Its not a "necessary" compound to giving you a champion physique. Why not put that money towards peptides or growth? It just seem so hard on the body.
zewiSMH
Thought you meant he'd ran it before. Misunderstood.
Like the others have said, stay away from tren for a fair while yet, 10 cycles+ is the guideline. Done correctly, some great gains to be made without diving into tren. No sides from other compounds doesn't mean he won't experience them using a new one.