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Hi Guys
its been a while since i posted. I hope your all well.
i need your help on making a choice on Steroid Cycle.

Before i start, my stats are on my profile, and this aint my first rodeo, however, Eroids members opinions and input is always welcome. Ai will be on hand and will be used on an As needed basis, and pct will follow using HCG, Nolvadex + Clomid for 6 weeks after, Then a break from AAS, untill the next cycle

option 1

weeks 1-20 test "E" 600mg P/w
weeks 1-20 Decca 300mg p/w
weeks 10-20 Tren "E" 500mg p/w
weeks 1-5 Dbol 40mg p/d
weeks 10-15 Oxy 50 50mg /pd

option 2
weeks 1-10 Test"E" 1000mg /p/w
weeks 1-10 Decca 600mg p/w
weeks 11 -20 Test "E" 500mg p/w
weeks 11-20 Tren "E" 500mg p/w
weeks 5-20 EQ 600mg p/w
weeks 1-5 Dbol 40mg p/d
weeks 11-15 Oxy50 50mg /pd

I should point out that on option 2 i will be taking the test from 1000mg to 500mg from weeks 10 running it Equal to the Tren @ 500mg.

Diet will be balanced meals every 2 hours ( clean)
Training will remain heavy throughout

thankyou for your opinions guys its appreciated.

The Impastable's picture

Stats
Age: 28
Height: 5'9
Weight: 180
Bf:

You shouldn't be running a cycle.

mosaicman's picture

An AI is always needed weather you think it is or not. It's not your first "rodeo" so i'm sure you realise that even 500mg of test p/w will result in excess estrogen and the problems it poses.

As for stuffing your face, why? exogenous test increases protein uptake by 27%, so all you need to do is take extra protein, and good fats, the point of a bulk is not to stuff your face and slap on a load of fat!!!

PS: why take two progesterone based steroids that are both class A as they use the same MOA (mechanism of action) they will only compete for the same route and serve no purpose together, there is no synergy with deca/tren, Probably why no lab has made it!!!!

Dickkhead's picture

the point of a bulk is not to stuff your face and slap on a load of fat!!!

Sounds nice bro. Like Dacky said below, as long as that's not another nice way of saying "lean bulk" because that's a load of horse shit. I'm a competitive bodybuilder with a long competition history and if lean bulks worked that would be standard practice. Since I wish to remain anonymous here, let's use a top top guy for example, Kai Greene. Kai certainly knows a few things about bodybuilding, I'm sure you would agree. Have you ever seen an offseason photo of Kai at way over 300 lbs? That's a bulk. Few (more than a few) lbs. of fat there too. Do I need to put up a photo or are you familiar with Kai?

The Impastable's picture

One of my all time favorite guys for off season comparisons was Lee priest. That dude could put away some serious amounts of food.

Dacky's picture

Are you for real?

Every one and I mean everyone will aromatise differently. There is an optimal level for estrogen to ensure and promote muscle mass and growth. The only way to know is to blood test. Too high and use an AI. It's that simple. My estogen for example barely moves on 500mg of test. How do I know this. From blood test. Your statement is ridiculous and irresponsible and could lead many to use an AI unnecessarily causing them to crash there estogen leading to all sorts of issues. Never mind the unnecessary use of an AI like adex can negatively input lipid values. Blood testing is the only way to know how YOU will react.

Regarding your other point also what nonsense. When you bulk properly you need to be in a sufficient surplus to add mass and protein alone will not be sufficient. Carbs for example play a critical role in shuttling amino acids into the muscles. More protein and enhanced uptake means more carbs are needed to do this. Nevermind that you needs carbs to take advantage of the effects of natural insulin which happens to be the most anabolic of hormones.

Unfortunately when you bulk in a sufficient surplus you will add fat and water as part of the process. But if done properly you will add more muscle allowing the fat to be cut afterwards. Let me guess you're one of these guys that advocates lean bulking?

Catalyst's picture

"Insulin is a hormone made by the pancreas that allows your body to use sugar"

8 years of further education in biochemistry says otherwise. Just saying.....

tonytulo's picture

Wow.....im speechless.

Dacky's picture

Totally! Trying to be constructive and informative and then I read that. The Sh&t you see and read on here sometimes. SMH!

The Impastable's picture

I guess physiology is now an elective in HS rather than a requirement?

vhman's picture

Insulin is a hormone made by the pancreas that allows your body to use sugar (glucose) from carbohydrates in the food that you eat for energy or to store glucose for future use. Insulin helps keeps your blood sugar level from getting too high (hyperglycemia) or too low (hypoglycemia).Apr 6, 2016
Endocrineweb.com

Maybe you should am yourself with a little knowledge before you post. Just a thought.

Dacky's picture

Really? Then what is it?

The Impastable's picture

Pixie dust. Tier 3.

vhman's picture

Tier 4 dip $h1t!!'

The Impastable's picture

F@ckF4Ce!!!!! Tier 4 isn't worth the extra mats idiot! You can get enchanted Tier 3 with 40K< DPS. Fucking noob.

vhman's picture

Sure, if you'd like a super dirty ride. Those of ride with refind pallets only use tier 4+. Who's the noob now (as I adjust my top hat and monocle).

Dacky's picture

Both of you are total novices. It's 800lE55 that you want. That tier 11 shit right there. Boom bitches!

The Impastable's picture

You're both Bourgeois scum. Chinese gold farm bots!

Girulo's picture

will go with test e, deca and eq if you want, with the Dbol. But bulking bro is more about train as hard as you can, muscle mind connection an the most important, your diet!

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tonytulo's picture

Good responses in here guys.

Iron-Gym-Works's picture

Thanks guys, its appreciated, i have read all your comments and taken note.
Many thanks goes out to you.

MAXIMUS666's picture

These are some heavy damn cycles for anyone let alone in your 40's. Cut it way down...just test and truck loads of food is all you need but if you insist on a second compound I'd say roll with the deca, but again, as most everyone else has mentioned here, the primary concern for ANY bulking cycle is to stuff your freakin face...morning, day and night, and even middle of the night when you wake up for a piss you can throw back some pre-made food and go back to bed. Best of luck!

waterhead235's picture

At 40 years old both of these cycles have a very real likely hood of destroying your endocrine system.

IrishMack's picture

Bulking is about food not bulking your doses of drugs. If you eat enough and train the same you would grow on 250 a week of test.

When I see posts like this and don't get offended, all I think of is someone who wants a shortcut and never realizes that the shortcut leads to a dead end.

Make a plan of attack by writing out your goals.
Make a meal plan to match.
Start eating and training as if you are going to die if you don't reach your goal.
At the end of 3 months of eating til you want to puke or pass out and training the same look in the mirror.
Profit.

SlowBro's picture

i would agree that both these cycles are excessive to say the least. bulking is more about food than anything else. these cycles are not thought out well and would have loads of side effects.

i would personally elect for something like 750 test e and 600eq. eat enough, train hard, and grow.

both of those cycles will also be very difficult to recover from with 2 long ester 19nors.

Brbry's picture

2 19 nors is no go bro. Are you planning on competing?

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Gymjunkie01's picture

trash both options this isn't a bulking cycle at all I checked your stats on your profile..

week 1-16 Test 750 mg
week 1-14 decca 500mg per week

eat big ... train hard... bulking is simple and doesn't have to be hard people want to over think it and trow all these orals and compounds in the mix..

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