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Hey guys. I have been reading the past few days on some great advice from some obviously knowledgeable people. I have take test in the past but because i was a college athlete I didn't do it for long due to NCAA drug tests. So, I have ordered Test E, Equiform 400, and winstrol (oral). tracking says it will be at my house in the next few days. I wanted advice on how i should take this to get best results. My main goal is to get lean or ripped. I am already an athletic build and have fat only on my med section. I plan on eating very clean, and lifting weights 4 days a week (evening) and doing the insanity workout 5 days a week (morning). Ill do an active recovery day on saturday and nothing on sunday. I am a teacher and so because of this pandemic i have all the time in the world to be as committed as i need to be. Ill take advice on anything. Thanks in advance for the replys.
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Sorry but this looks REALLY bad - You've ordered 3 compounds without any type of research or knowledge of basic cycling and want to know the best way to take them?? I'm surprised you haven't been torn a new one by some members.
RustyhookerAt 35...youre full of crap. You aint doing no ncaa anything!!! How bout read GROUPS...FIRST CYCLE EXPLAINED. Your bullshitting to get spoonfed
back2basicsDo you know the difference when you read something in past tense and present tense? Go back and read again dumbass. You might need to be a different site if you can't even read correctly
Manateeswimmer5678To prevent scar tissue make sure you have a good rotation schedule for different muscle groups. Also look into back loading which is using a 3cc syringe with a large gauge like 23 to draw from the vial and then filling an insulin pin with a smaller gauge such as 30g. The smaller gauge will be painless and will definitely help prevent scar tissue formation
back2basicsperfect thank you
Rustyhooker23 to 30....lmao
Manateeswimmer5678Lol yeah man I'm not a fan of large gauges lol
Cplvela0811I was getting to the point of asking him if he was going to contribute anything, versus poking at people for having an opinion.
Karma is misleading here because if you're funny or appease the "bros", it just comes by the bucket. He had his moments of glory, but no matter what, it's a shock to me that Ol' Rusty is banned.
AnonYou are getting great advice and being respectful about it too. So I hit some thumbs up.
I'll add my opinion...it's been a while since you've ran a cycle and I think a Test only cycle for 10 to 15 weeks would be great. You must have an AI and good PCT.
It also wouldn't hurt to have HCG on hand to start at the end of your cycle before PCT. I didn't have HCG for most of my past cycles, but I have started using it at the end of all my cycles and it makes a huge difference for me. I like to get one 5,000iu kit of HCG and do the math counting backward from the day I'm going to start PCT, that way I use it all up right before starting PCT. Some guys blast high amounts of HCG the last 2 weeks before starting PCT, I have never done so. I have taken 250iu Monday/Wednesday/Thursday and I have taken 500iu Monday/Thursday at the end of cycles before starting my PCT. Each time one 5,000iu kit was enough and the effects were noticeable. Here is a nice eroids link on HCG:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/hcg-101.-why...
Do plenty of research here at eroids forums and have a cycle plan and everything you need on hand before starting a cycle.
Manateeswimmer5678I agree bro, HCG is extremely beneficial for people looking for a successful PCT or for people on trt looking to maintain fertility
Cplvela0811Go to your primary care physician and request a physical and comprehensive blood work. This will tell you where your normal limits are, (Testosterone levels, lipid profile, various hormones) and we can work more effectively from there. The point of blood work (Labs) are also to monitor your overall health, while on. If you're predisposed to type II diabetes or have a history of cardiac issues, there could be some ramifications with cycling, bro, especially with 3 compounds for a 1st full-fledged cycle. One compound would also grant you the ability to see how you handle anabolic/androgenic compounds.
Tron mentioned PCT (Post cycle therapy). I highly advise learning more about that, as use of any anabolic/androgenic agent causes suppression of your HPTA (Hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis). In essence your natty hormone levels will be hindered if not treated properly.
Another subject to study closely would be AI's (aromatase inhibitors). They are used to combat estrogenic side effects; Gyno, high bp, mood swings, and the like.
Imho, I would suggest Testosterone only, (300-500Mg) for a 1st cycle bro. Train hard, get some good sleep, sun, stay hydrated, and eat right. Ingredients for success.
Hopefully this helps. If not, disregard my last and carry on teacher.
TronI don't condone 3 compounds in a cycle for someone who has never done a real cycle. I also don't agree with someone ordering products without having knowledge of them. Had you have done proper research you would have ordered just test and pct products. You didn't mention anything about plans for a pct. Do you have anything for estrogen control? Listen, you need to post your stats as well.
back2basicsthanks for the reply. I got them because there basic results sounds like goals i wanted to reach for. This doensnt mean i have to take them. I can keep them and take them later on for another cycle. thanks for the response
Rustyhookeryoure asking spoonfed and getting it...hahaga...wow
TronAnd you died.
Manateeswimmer5678If this is your first cycle we are gonna need a whole lot more info like your lifting stats and history, current physique ie bf etc, as well as total nutrition. First cycles I would go with test only to see how your body responds ie. Estrogen sensitivity etc. Also how old are you and how long have you been lifting? Winny is also a very dangerous oral imo. It wrecks havoc on lipids and Fry's out joints to the extent of maybe causing injury. Remember on test your muscles will be growing much faster than your tendons can adapt meaning added stress. Add drying of joints from Winny and we have a recipe for disaster. Are you doing bb or power lifting style lifting? If powerlifting I wouldn't recommend Winny. Also how are your pre bloods?
back2basicsMy bad! I am 6,3 fluctuate in between 215, and 220. I will not be doing powerlifting. I have a pretty athletic build. I am 34 years old and will be 35 at the end of the summer. I bench about 315, squat 365, and haven't really maxed at powercleans or anything else. I plan on eating a lot. oatmeal w banana, 3 eggs, protein shake.....lunch will be spinach salad with strawberries, walnuts, lowfat vinagrette, protein shake....dinner will be probably fish with brocolli or something green with sweet potatoes another protein shake. might have some snacks like beef jerky in between as well. I have heard that about winstrol. I have no idea what my pre bloods are. I am just getting into this, i have no idea what pre bloods are. thanks for the response
TronYou have a little experience with test. It's been a while so really treat this as your first cycle. At 500mg a week of test for 10-15 weeks you'll get great results with great training and great diet. You need to have some estro protection on hand in case of sides. exemestane .. something of that sort. This will prevent high estro sides like fatigue, itchy nipples, fat increase in breast tissue aka GYNO. And it's important to find a sweet spot with an ai so that you don't go too low and crash your estrogen. Those side effects suck too. Too high or too low is bad all the way around See how the test by itself does. See how you respond to that. Then next cycle maybe add a compound. Once you know how your body responds to test then if and when you get sides on other compounds you will know if it's the test or a different compound. I have been cycling for ten years or better. I never go with more than two compounds. OCCASIONALLY I will go with three. Maybe Dbol or Tbol for two weeks as a kicker and then Test and Masteron or Test and EQ. Running these at the same time of course. But honestly I wouldn't mess with winstrol. I am not a fan of it. It dries me the hell out and causes my bones to crack and ache. I like anavar as my favorite oral compound. 50-75mg a day split into two doses a day. And I never go much higher than 500mg on test ... I think much higher is a waste and you're looking at more sides. I felt terrible when I went as high as 750mg a week on test. I got a moon face and was bloated. I was taking an ai as well. If you are not competing or plan on competing and are just a guy wanting to physically better himself do what I do. No need to risk anything. But don't start anything until you have and AI and I hope you have a pct planned out. I really hope you already have those products. you never mentioned that.
back2basicsAlso last question, i have heard about scar tissue building up around inject site. how can i keep this from happening?
back2basicsGreat insight. I actually just ordered some PCT (clomid) so it should be here in a few weeks. Can i ask you something else? You said take 500mg test, is that pure week? also can i ask you about timing of taking the test? like what days of the week. Kind of like i guess what is the regular rotation in taking it. Thanks for the info
TronYou posted this as I was posting a similar comment. Good info +2