Beginner cycle question(bulk cycle)
Hello everybody! I am new to the whole steroid scene and I have been researching thoroughly for about a year and a half now. I see that many people discourage starting a cycle at an earlier age (example 18 or 20's) but for myself I think I am ready to take the plunge. I am 18 years old 5'7 and 168lbs at 10% bf I have been training for 2 years and my diet is great! or so I think it is. I have worked very hard to put on a lot of mass I started from 120lbs and very skinny to now a very healthy muscular kid.
Please leave your morals/personal philosophies at the door because this conversation is going to be a mature conversation about steroids for me.
I plan to cycle; Test-E, Dbol and MAYBE some Deca. I have read up as much as possible for PCT and I plan to use Caber, Arimadex (maybe HCG but that is for ON CYCLE) I have studied estrogen a lot and I know to keep E2 down and how the body works regarding hormones. From that I have deduced that a cycle would be a nice way to gain some quality mass followed by a great PCT to keep the gains and keep me safe.
So my first question is would this be a first good cycle for me.
Test-E: 500mg p/wk Monday and friday injects (weeks 1-10)
Dbol 50 mg a day (weeks 1-5)
Deca, personal note I am not sure how much Deca to use so guidance would be good. (weeks 1-8)
On cycle I plan to use caber (Arimidex if estro side effects show up).
After cycle I plan to use arimidex and a bunch of supplements to boost natural test levels (IE: Tribulus, Zinc and a really healthy diet).
Thoughts and input is greatly appreciated thankyou for your answers as well ! 
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Honestly, what and how much do you eat? Do you know your BMR plus activity, and do you eat 1000-1500 calories over it? The reason I ask is because your post didn't reveal anything specific, just that you think it is. You have to know it is...lol!!
These responses down below are from people that have experience and care about what you do, especially me. Brother Bear, you need to wait a couple years to do steroids....very simple!! I can't go into detail specifically because my bros down below have already keyed you in on some good info.....that was free.
So, you keep on researching and waiting. if you want to spend some money, order some bloodwork and take a look at yourself on the inside. It is a whole new level from that point forward....
Love ya, Man....no homo!!
At 18 your plates aren't even grown together yet. I didn't reach my full height until I was 20 years old. You definitely do not want to cycle until your plates are fully grown together or you could hamper any growth you have left. Like everyone here has stated you are producing the most amount of testosterone between now and the next few years. You won't have that kind of production ever again in your life. You need to eat big and work your ass off!
No one here is going to advise an 18 year old on a cycle like that, or any cycle for that matter. Dangerous stuff on many different levels. You have no idea what a test only cycle would do to you, and you want to throw in some very strong compounds like dbol and deca? Crazy talk man. You clearly have not been doing the research you claim or you would know this.
Good luck with you're training man, but heed the advice of giving it a couple years before you juice. However I doubt you will!!
I took your statement whole-heartily and I realize the dangers so I am not going to do the cycle but jesus man they sure do look good.
They are a good way to take shit to the next level, but you have to be in a position to do so. Which means waiting until its time. It's like waiting for a christmas present, I know, but if you are doing research keep doing it. Be even more ready when the time comes. I did my first cycle at 21.
18 years old?! You're too young...don't fuck yourself up! Read more bro...here read this article:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/are-you-ready-...
*article courtesy of "finafan"
No bro, too young, your testosterone is so high right now that your already juiced up on natural steriods. Your own Testosterone! So stay natty for a good 7 more years
Go Home!
plus at 5' 7" depending on what body type you are you can blow up like a tank at 210lbs, Im saying getting up there natural plus your joints our healthy at 18 and your muscles recover great at the age you are. do it natural bud you will be glad u did. Then when your older and maxed yourself out come back and try a cycle with just test.
you shouldn't even think about running a cycle in my opinion till your 25 years old. You are still a kid in your size men do not peak out there full bodies potential till there 25 years old if you lift weights or not. I say do not take them but your going to do what u want. good luck brother
Anon168 pounds...
spend your money on food bro
168lbs at 10%bf is not good? That is a pretty decent size to be at my height.. Well at least I thought
AnonBottom line buddy, unless your an active competing BB no way should you run a cycle at 18. never mind deca on a first run. Youve only two years training under your belt and your natural test is just starting to hit so why shut it down. This isnt what u want to hear I know and not ment as an attack just advice.
I understand, but temptation is a cruel mistress. I know steroids aren't a "get quick big" drug but they definitely do aid in muscle building. So I am guessing you are fully against it.
AnonYes temptation is a cruel bitch lol. Look around the gym and see big guys and you want to be bigger. Do it the right way, there are guys and girls on here who would gladly spend the time with a younger member to aid in diet and training tips.
Training is a lifelong thing, granted there may be a break or two along the way but its a marathon rather than a sprint.
Spend more time with your diet, its amazing how your body responds to it. 30lbs is easily atainable to you without gear and to be able to say yea im massive and all natural, when some fat slob asks are u juicing. Its a good feeling.
AnonNo one in their right mind will tell an 18 year old to go run a cycle. 20 is too young, so is 22. You need to mature first. With just a half ass diet you can gain another 30 pounds EASY
Eighteen is too young! I still struggle with Deca usage and have alot of experience with it. Deca is not for a first, second nor third cycle. You're not going to get support of any kind of cycle here.
There is no possible way for me to do this safely?
Muta is right. We aren't going to affirm your decision to cycle. Save your money and invest it so you can buy more when your twenty-six.
There are so many of us, under thirty, that are on TRT from making decisions like you want to do. TRT sucks!
Anondude, you aren't even through puberty yet.. not trying to offend you - but at 18 years old, you aren't. Your muscles aren't half developed, nor is your endocrine system. You cycle now you're going to ruin any potential you could have naturally had.
How will I know when I am ready then?
Anonpost a pic of yourself in the self shots and get some feedback - honestly. don't mention your age.. just ask given on your muscle development do people think you're ready for your first cycle
http://www.eroids.com/node/add/gearpics
One last question muta, you have been very helpful as well as the other members.
Are steroids more dangerous to me than lets say, going to a party getting shit faced twice every month(not that I do I am speaking hypothetically) or say smoking cigarettes.
Anondifferent kind of poisons bro.
You're reaching for affirmation via hypothetical questions? You've already been told. You're still in puberty until twenty-one. I grew an additional inch at age twenty-three.