Beginner cycle?
Hi guys, been doing a load of research the past year or so into aas, and wanted to know your opinion for a first cycle.
I've been training about 4 years, the last 2 I've had my nutrition down properly. Been on several bulks and cuts but seem to have really stalled in progress. (weight gain) eating isn't a problem for me though my metabolism is ridiculous, last bulk was eating 4800cals to even gain 0.5lbs a week.
I'm 5'8 at 160lbs low body fat (realise this sounds light, somehow look bigger than my friends at 180)
Anyway I was thinking of something like this:
Week 1-4 dbol
Week 1-10 test e 500mg (pinning every sunday)
0.5mg Arimidex eod and adjust accordingly. (paranoid of gyno)
Pct (2 weeks after last jab):
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Does this sound OK? Critisism welcome.
Also, with test e does it actually matter what day of the week you inject, should is be based around training schedule in any way or is it litteraly whichever day is most convenient.
Thanks in advance guys
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Low body fat??? Way to help us out. Your in the wrong section.
Didn't realise that the specific number would have been of the utmost importance. As I don't find it necessary to find out the exact percentage of body fat I'm personally carrying in the first place, it would have been an estimate, around 10% I would say just for the sake of saying a number.
And being as you bumped an old thread purely to tellme imI'm in the wrong section, I assume your another one of these that go around a forum scouring for impurities and mistakes in people's original posts just so you can say something as retarded as so in your previous comment. I don't beleive I'm in the wrong section, but the wrong forum in general. There are plenty more much more informative and less judgemental sites on the Internet. With less people like you. I asked for advice, instead you called me on not giving my exact body fat percentage when all other areas of actual importance were covered in my OP. Thank you anyway, great help.
well yeah it does matter actually, hes rite to question you, your 22 years old, every bit of info is crucial, its your health, body and even life in the hands of us strangers on the nets hands. smh.
He didn't question me, he flat out told me I was in the wrong section due to me missing out one bit of detail that I personally didn't think was needed as I didn't want to make a guess. There was no attempt to give any advice or help. A much more tactful way would have have been to simply ask me, rather than being a dick about it.
You're right though about me potentially putting my safety into hands of strangers if I decided to take their advice or not, so wouldn't it be better to actually receive some advice from those people rather than being nit picked for one missing detail. If I was as stupid as half of the people my age who didn't get the advice they wanted and argued about it I could understand, but I'm open to criticism as I've demonstrated in previous posts.
we have to nit pick bro, i think he was quite friendly, with you being 22 he could or wrote a 2 page essay flaming your ass if he wanted, full stats is protocol. btw i accidentally negged you, im on a playstation 3 using a control, gave it back, soz 4 that.
Alright mate fair enough, like I said I'm on these forums to learn anyway, like to gather a bit of knowledge from people with actual experience along side my own research. Lol no worries man thanks for giving it back haha
im happy to help with diet, nutrition and training.+ 1 for good attitude!
AnonYour stats are FAR superior to his. Also he's conveniently 25 on the dot look at that! He's probably a teenager with that garbage attitude. 6'4 195 is a fkin twig
It's a new account, there's a lot of banned ex-members here that stir shit all the time just to stir shit.
You aren't on the wrong forum or wrong section you asked a reasonable question.... Our regular members are not assholes, mostly anyways. You responded here receptively to advice…. people are only ( rightfully so ) dicks to guys that come on here don't get the advice they wanted to hear, mainly kids wanting to cycle with idiotic shit like tren, then flip out and call everyone stupid for not co-signing their lunacy.
Did you try out Viking's shakes you said you would below? If you are eating as you say & stats are accurate that's fantastic condition for a natural. I know what you are saying I trained natural for 5 years, I was always significantly lighter than most people sitting around 170-180 but looked much bigger people thought I was 200 generally. There's a lot to be learned here about diet & training not just anabolics….. Track Viking's posts he's a literal gold mine of info.
Good luck with whatever you do bro. There will alway be keyboard warriors.
Thanks a lot for that buddy, very much appreciated! It does annoy me how people generally think that just because they have slightly more experience in an aspect than one person, it gives them a right to have a superior attitude.
More people like you sir is what these forums need!
I understand people getting a bit of sh*t for coming in without a shred of info and very little knowledge of the cycles they have proposed, but as you said yourself clearly that's not the case this time.
And to your question Yeah I did try one of those shakes, although I substituted almond butter for peanut butter and had to lower the servings quite a bit. (I'm not really a shake man, mostly prefer eating food), but yes it's a good addition to my diet, back to consuming 4000 cals again now and slowly putting a bit of weight on! Thanks for the kind reply!
AnonInflated ego is a surefire sign of insecurity…. you see this in all walks of life. It's just worse on the internet 10x over because they're hiding behind a computer screen.
I had to lower servings as well when I was doing it, first thing in the morning I can't handle the calorie mega hit. Metabolism is so fast my stomach shrinks while I sleep expands after my first few meals of the day. At night I'm good for it though. I prefer to eat whole foods as well but when you get to where you have to eat 8x a day just to maintain your weight it becomes nearly impossible if you have a life lol.
Any questions related to whatever just PM me, I sent you a FR. Doesn't look like you need help with diet you seem dialed in but anything else ask away…. nothing wrong with educating yourself now. Better to be ready and dialed in when it comes time to cycle finally there is a LOT to learn. I pretty well know what not to do in most situations from firsthand experience lmao I wasn't always prudent…. cycling can be immensely rewarding or a complete nightmare. Or a disturbing combination of both.
Yeah I agree mate!
It's always a plus having a fast metabolism when it comes to dieting though isn't it, some of my friends have to get their calories stupidly low at the end of their diets and I don't envy them!
Thanks for the friends request mate - accepted.
I'm sure I'll hit you up for some advice on cycling soon! Always prefer to hear from someone with real life experience rather than someone who has just had their head in a book (not that it isn't also usefull)
Come see us in 3-5 years.
Not a good idea then? I've read conflicting arguments some saying don't consider them untill your 21 some saying 25 others even saying 30 lol.
Litterally stick it out until I've matured then so to speak?
not "you", you're endocrine system. It will mature around age 25.
Right Yeah that's what I meant hah.
Any ideas how to get past this plateu? Other than playing around with macros and cals.
Losing weight and fat for me is easy. It's the weight gain that I struggle with. As I said it's not that I can't eat.. I love to eat, just seem to get stuck everytime and trying to eat "good" foods is hard when you get to nearly 5k cals.
no, like you said diet. (http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/for-guys-that-seriously...) throw two of these a day in the mix. Shit works trust me.
Shit 1600cals.. Sounds good to me man thanks for that I'll give it a blast soon as I've finish this cut