+ 18 Before you start giving cycle advice.....
OK folks, been noticing some of the newer guys getting involved in the cycle logs / anabolic steroids / steroid cycles section, GREAT! Firstly I'd like to say thank you for assisting, it's always nice to get fresh opinions on how we do things rather than just parrot-fashion bro science. This isn't an exact science and views vary greatly depending upon experience, age, and even geography, (i.e. the Proviron / Mast cycles Vike and I run, tends to be a Brit thing from 10-12 years ago). I like new views, I like new ideas and I like to push the boundaries of what is "the norm", but I also like to do it safely. I'm not so keen on watching new members getting grief because they do things differently and therefore ending up scared to help. Different is ok, as long as it's SAFE. Maybe this will help existing members and new members in different ways as a result.
We're a tight knit community here and we do have some ways and means of doing things, so before you get yourself in the trenches of cycle advice, please review the following. It will help with your learning process about how we help and what we deem acceptable and not so acceptable.
First off - Hollywood's post on TABOO TOPICS - READ IT!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/eroids-taboo-topics
Self explanatory from the title, lays out what we don't consider appropriate for the forum. Decide not to read it or ignore it and you may find yourself as popular as herpes.
Before you go diving into offering advice I suggest you sit back and read for a couple of weeks, get a feel for how we do things. eroids is different to the other forums you'll find, we put safety high up our priority list. We expect you to do the same.
Some of our "unwritten rules"
1) We don't offer cycle advice to those under 25.
2) No stats, no advice. We want as much background as possible regarding previous cycles, diet etc. If the OP can't be bothered to supply the information, tough shit, go elsewhere.
3) 150lb lad been training for 6 months who wants to "get swole" needs diet and training advice, not a cycle.
4) If you haven't used it, don't advise others how to. There will be someone who can. They're better placed
from personal experience to help.
5) Try to guide rather than dictate. People often switch off if they feel they're being told something in a way they don't like, irrespective of how good the information actually.
6) Work as a team, support the guys offering good advice and try and avoid pointless bickering about minor details. A united front can sometimes sway even the most stubborn 20 year old that cycling shouldn't be on their radar.
7) Show respect for other members.
I realise there's a lot to take in for the new guys and girls and I personally enjoy seeing new members get involved and add to the wealth of knowledge this site holds in it's community. Let's embrace it, not bash it and help them understand "the eroids way".
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bumped. wheres the stats and history gone? forum protocol?
Hahahah.... i knew that protocol would hit the deck when i hung up my hammer
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^^WOOO hooooo!!! Hello!
Haha... Hello brother, tis me the man from the North at your service lol
Hows that Mast treating you?
RustyhookerMast is always fun. It's damn strong though. Ran 750/750/750 and with provi in there I could lower it to 400 and still be fine. No ai used. Tne kept me in estro range.
Plotting a thanksgiving shorts run if things go right.
RustyhookerI dunno. I keep asking the same question which has just left me as official "site asshole".
I understand that each OP has different goals and body types but a human stick figure needs foods. Not drugs.
RustyhookerHaha! Perfect timing with Halloween coming
Asshole? That's only because people don't want to hear the truth.....
RustyhookerVery true big bro!
They "can't handle the truth!!!"
Rustyhookerlmao
And they don't want to do the work. Years of hard work, pain, soreness, injuries, eating stuff you don't want to eat. "I want to be big though". You know what the difference is? I actually love doing the work.
RustyhookerTo keep the mentality in check, just look around the gym. The guys in our age group just aren't there. It's truly a game of longevity. But cruising the local stores on home repairs, all those miles sure stare. Followed by glare from the hubby that's in bad shape. Worth every minute!
Very true. I've never minded too much doing the work, but the older I get, the more I love actually doing the work. The results are just benefits and side effects. My well-being (mental and physical) is directly tied to the hard work. I wouldn't change that for anything and I wish more could discover that. We'll keep preaching it...
no stats, no service? is it still forum protocol? site asshole? nah bro, no one else on this entire site has put more work in the forums than you, keep killing it, haters gonna hate, i think yourself and i are 2 members on here who even have our own team of trolls..........argghhh, the internet world, lol.
If you throw fairy dust at trolls they turn into bugs and you can squash them .. ;-)
bhahahahaha! ill have to put an order in for some, ill need a lot though.
RustyhookerSome of these young dudes I wish I could train em for 1 week. Get a good evaluation of their potential. Then they have more options in the field
I have kind of given up on the cycle advice unless somebody specifically asks me for my comments or if I see that the person really has an understanding of training/diet and they are using the cycle to take it to the next level and not using it as crutch for shitty diet/training. A lot of the crazy stuff people are posting for cycles is frustrating and what makes it even more frustrating is that it doesn't matter what advice they get on their cycle, they are going to run it the way the originally posted it anyway. All it takes is for one bozo here to sign off on their crazy cycle and it is "GTG". It is pretty easy to get burned out replying to the same crazy cycles over and over. Seems like there is a good crew of people helping people with cycles right now anyway so I prefer giving out training and diet advice first.
Pretty much where I'm at too Makwa. There's some folks I'll help on PM, but otherwise I think I'll stay out of it for a while
Wall put JintoBold.
8) Remember that this is a site full of juiced up Alphas so if you are the sensitive type you may want to stick to the search bar LOL!
Hboy............... just made my day! now i am happy my brother returned
BOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooommMMMM!!!
RustyhookerOr the favorite, "I want to run this".... Then regardless of info presented they holler back they'll run it their original way. Typically after cosigner let's them hear "gtg".
Bumping this, sure the older members will be able to work out why.
It's obvious March is stupid cycle month of the year 2015 so far. Think I need a self imposed ban from this section before I start being a little "too honest"
noticed another trend lately of giving advice under 25 by vets as well. "Since you will do it anyways here is a complete cycle for you with pct as well." I always loved that line of text as if it makes everything all better.
Yep, I've also noticed that, I agree with what Kapsize is saying above, only thing I would say is I'd want to see something special to advise an under 25. I have done in the past, but I'm talking a handful of times. Some 24 year old that has run 4 cycles, under 200lbs and wants to run deca and tren doesn't fit that category.
In a way I'm past caring to be honest. Crap attitude, I'll openly admit, but I find the whole cycle advice largely tiresome these days. More and more gear, bigger cycles, "Mote is better" as someone told me a couple of days ago. I think I'm going to ban myself from this section.
After going through it yesterday....I banned myself from even looking as well as commenting. 5 foot 6, 125 pounds test e @800 a week tren a @75 ed, eq @1200 anavar 100 a day 3000 calories a day because I'm trying to lean bulk... I forgot to add I will be 23 in a few days and have been lifting since I was 4 years old. Should I add some deca since my strength will be through the roof?
Bahahahaha now that's someone I would straight flame! Lol too bad I didn't catch that one
I'm starting to realize I cut off at the "wanting to get big and lose body fat at the same time" line of reasoning. It that's the case, it's called not eating like shit. No need for AAS for anyone using this line really.
And yes, I eat like a dumpster. I'll have my salmon with rice or potatoes, and pound down two bars of chocolate and four large scoops of ice cream right after it, but I'm not under the illusion I'm going to jump on cycle and look like heath in 4 weeks... Why is it so hard for people, especially these young kids nowadays where nutrition is jammed down our throats, to fucking eat right!
Apparently nutrition doesn't matter as long as they use loads of gear. I wish I'd realised that a long time ago, I'd have saved a fortune on food.
Some young lad was talking to me at the gym yesterday after I spotted for him. "How many protein shakes do you have in a day" he asks. "2. whey after workout, casein before bed". "so why are you so big?". I was just about to go into the nutrition speech then thought why bother? My response was "steroids mate, shit loads of 'em".
Told you it was getting to me lol!
I try to be as intimidating as possible so they stay the fuck away from me... I can't keep going in circles in the same conversations day in day out with these kids. I tell them I mix tuna, eggs, and cola in a blender. They find it so repulsive they never ask again.
i will admit, i am guilty of helping out guys under 25 before, BUT only when the individual has come forward with impressive enough stats thats shows they have already solid development and a complete and cohesive understanding of AAS and has a proposed cycle that needs little to no editing. and im sure Cat has seen and in a small way is hinting at me lol. while i agree with you guys that the 25 y/o rule is good and helps alot of younger guys from hurting themselves, im still unclear how a say 23 or 24 y/o with a solid foundation and solid knowledge of cycling shouldn't get confirmation or help with their cycle when say a 28 y/o comes on here with no knowledge at all, weighing 180 at 6' and some guys WILL write an entire cycle for them. because although its a couple years difference in age, who is at a higher risk? im not trying to upset anyone or overstep my lvl1 tag here by any means. i just think there is more to every individual than age.
im a nobody here but you have a good point
Actually no, wasn't hinting at you. I'm much less subtle than that ;) turning it around for a second, you would be one of the younger guys mentioned above that I would help with a cycle though as you've built a decent frame, sensible researched cycle plans, good diet and training and mature for your age.
There you were thinking I was putting you "in the naughty crowd" and you get a compliment instead lol!
And although I myself am guilty of cycling before I was 25 I read and researched from this site as well as others for 3 whole years before I pulled the trigger. And the most important thing a young guy like myself at the time could do, I went and spoke to my physician about my cycling plans! Not something many people consider when starting into the world of AAS. Because as knowledgable as many of the members here are most of then are not medical professionals with complete access to your specific medical history. Being smart about what your doing is most important.
haha that was unexpected, thanks Cat. much respect
eroids has blown the fuck up so many mistake "karma" for "vet"
You mean the 23 and 24 year olds with over 500-1k karma are not vets? Surely you jest my good man?
Good point on that one, but some of the ones giving it have been here long enough to know the unwritten rules yet still don't give a fuck.
I may be wrong on this, but isn't the under 25 deal no longer an unwritten rule, but an actual set in stone rule?
If it is look at the cycles section; I saw 3 ppl getting advice under 25, one was fkn 23, another 24, and another 22.
RustyhookerI remember supernova. Lmao! He was a vet and never cycled at 145lbs.
Oh I'm with you on that, and none of these are amateur or pro (which is the only time I think an exception would be plausible).
I used to be a hard ass on these kids but ppl said I was too mean so I just sit back and wait for the next "Help I have 34D boobs now aand my little friend won't get happy" posts. One kid described his cycle of taking exemestane eod then he says for pct he has aromosin...I could have sworn its the same fkn thing yet noone corrected the poor lost soul.
AnonI started my cycle yesterday in honor of stupid cycle month
Maybe there should be a stupid cycle of the week forum.
Well I have a potential winner already.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/test-e-tren-a
Anyone got anything better?
AnonDamn lol, might have another one here:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/12-week-test-e-primobolin-prop-kicker-...