Athlete Hardening Cycle
Hey,
new to forum...sorta new to gear...and I am a year round athlete pretty much with a short offseason between End of April and July-ish...
I have a question thats probably been asked a million times in a million different ways but cant quite find the answer I am looking for.
My current stats are 6'1" 22 yrs old ~260lbs I float depending on water weight from the fitness session that day.
I want to run a cycle coming up after the main stretch of season (April) and I am looking to:
A. increase strength
B. change my body comp. I am around 14% body fat and want to get down to around 6-8% (I was in great shape before leaving last season to work and I gained a bunch of sloppy weight)
C. would like to stay relatively around the same weight.
Problem is I dont really have much time for say a "bulking--then cutting the last couple weeks" so I have been trying to look at options of running just Anavar or Winnstrol...
I have ran two cycles of Winnstrol prior once when I was 18 taking tablets and had GREAT results. Best shape and playing weight of my life and the second cycle of taking which seemed like bunk depot about a year and a half ago and had no results....
I was wondering what yall think about the two and could you run a say 10 wk Anavar cycle around 50mg/ED wk 1-4 and 100mg/ED wk. 5-10
I realize the Anavar is more of a hardening agent but I am wondering if it people notice the same problems with winny (achy joints, cramping) with cardio...
I will be doing cardio and the first cycle I took fish oil with it which seemed to limit the problems to little to none.
Or would yall recommend another winnstrol cycle and what amount of time or mg a day just by itself...
- My diet is clean and depending of in or off season between ~3500-2200 cal. respectively obviously with some cheat days here and there also depending on in or off season.
- I dont smoke at all. I try to drink very rarely if not at all in season and more commonly in offseason (as it is summertime).
Any help greatly appreciated. Trust me hard work is in and out every day I understand people may say "your not ready try it naturally" But at the end of the day I need to be in the best possible shape I can be in by mid summer with big goals coming shortly after.
I also am a college kid so money is an issue (anavar is more expensive then winny) also I didnt use a PCT before with winny because I was under the impression you dont need one...what are your thoughts on that as well.
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daim bro, you need to do more research. I would suggest for you to check out this group http://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles
Its talks about the basics from pining to an actual cycle layout with a proper pct.
I just looked I liked the all-test cycle. Thanks for the link. I am really worrying about bloating up a lot more than hardening though as I dont really want my size to increase that much. But I understand more muscle mass burns fat as well.
I understand pinning basics as I have done it before and did a ton of research before that as well.
Thats the only reason I was thinking an anavar or winstrol only sorta thing.
Thanks tried covering it up with phone but didnt really know. when I took 7 months off it really killed me (fast food and junk) The past about month and a half (since I am back training full-time) its been relatively around as follows:
Breakfast:
4 eggs (2 whole 2 whites)
2 pieces toast
Pre Lift:
Preworkout
Protein Shake
Post:
Shake ( Whey)
Glutamine
Lunch:
Usually 1 cup rice or quinoa
4-6oz chicken or fish depending
1 cup mixed frozen veggies
Post Training:
Shake
Dinner:
Chicken sometimes baked with veggies and salad and rice
usually the dinner is was changes the most as it is hard to please the wife as shes a picky eater but this week its been more strict..like tonight was 10oz chicken with 2 pieces toast (all my toast is whole grain)
when you want to reply to someone hit the reply icon so its not so hard to follow who you are talking to....Ok 3 meals a day and 3 shakes isnt a very good regime for food, cut atleast one of those shakes out and add it as a meal, probably the preworkout would be best. and it would be good to get another meal in there as well, small but food never the less. we have a section for nutrition that you might want to look at and we have some guys on here that are really good at putting together diets. Now I know damn well that at 260 and 23 to 26% BF you have been eating way more then this, especially if your training twice a day. so lets talk about this training, why are you training twice a day? and what are you doing cause your pic didnt look like someone that is training like that.
Yeah I admit my diet isnt as tight as it can be but whenever I run a prohormone I always make sure my diet is right 5-6 meals chicken rice and veggies usually...but I am sick of wasting money at stores with half grade products and wanted to go the real route..We have a nutritionist available and before next semester I am gonna take advantage of it and get all my meal plans as well...
My exact schedule looks like this:
Mon:
Lift & Practice
Tue:
Practice
Wed:
Lift
Thur:
Practice
Fri:
Light Lift & Practice
Sat:
Game
Sun:
OFF
so essentially I am only lifting three times a week the lifts are all compound movements with the most specialization being say like Pullups. The rest would be cleans variations. Squat and rdl variations. We dont bench in season so pushing exercise variations. It just depends on the day and how hard training (practice) is scheduled for that week. For the weight and body comp I am at I am fit. which is what I need to play what I do but that doesnt mean theres not room for more fitness as well.
to be honest with you if you dialed in that diet with this workout regime you would see some good results, I promise you your diet is the problem. when you get that BF% down your results are gonna be alot better. start researching your eating habits and get strict with what you eat everyday, if you want to be a serious athlete then the diet needs to be in place at all times. once you have that down your BF will drop, and in the mean time start researching and learn about theses compounds and how they work. My advice is to get serious and research and diet for the next 6 months atleast before you go fucking your self up with juice. Also go get a blood test done and find out what your natty test levels are, as well as estro.,
Yeah...I just wanted to kind of expedite the process a little my strength is where it needs to be but it never hurts to get a little stronger...See my thing is its not really HOW I look...just how I play
the other thing is I wouldn't mind taking a depot as opposed to oral...its just when I bought it last time I got it local not online like I did with the orals and it was either bunk gear or something and WAY to expensive I just wanted it fast.
Ok I deleted your picture because your face was in it and I dont want you to suffer any repercussions for it....That being said your BF% is around 23 to 26, its very high to running steroids with the goal of getting hard, its way to high to see results from winstrol and honestly if you run juice right now your just gonna look a little bulkier but not much is gonna be seen until your BF comes down. juice is not used to loose weight that is controlled by diet and cardio. post up your diet lets take a look at what your eating everyday.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/pre-cycle-protocol
Read this and all of its contents. Seriously though, roid noid hit it on the head. if your going to do AAS at least you can be somewhat safe. Try using the search function. Once again. I don't think you should do this cycle to drop lbs, you can do that with diet and cardio alone. Either way go to the link.
how would I post a picture on this thread?
-but I was looking at running it with Test E...250 mg per week ( low dose) for 11weeks ( a vial) and then 3 weeks clomid at 50mg a day PCT....but I was worried still with a low dose that I might blow up a little
you can post a picture here http://www.eroids.com/node/add/gearpics
bro if you train 10 months out of the year and cant get your BF% down then aint nothing steroids gonna do, you need to work on your diet. post a pic so we can see if your 14% and where you should go with your training and cycle advice
Pct with winstrol is still necessary, test is also necessary with oral cycle imo because it will shut down your own production. Orals only is a bad choice.
Oral only cycles are a no go. Exogenous hormones = suppression of natural testosterone production. You'll always need a test base with oral use and if you haven't or not willing to inject test then you shouldn't do any oral. If you haven't done a test only cycle then that's what you should do. Although personally I would say you should stay away from AAS for a while. If you think anavar is expensive wait til your buying pins plus pct plus your AI plus your test. Safety first bud.
sorry, didn't see you there
It's all good. Let us let a resounding chorus of "DON'T DO ORAL ONLY CYCLES" emit from this thread ;)