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Hi there Jakal here...
Brand new to any sort of forum.
Have never done any form of steroids and am looking at Anavar, I don't want to get massive or anything just some good definition and maybe a couple kgs of muscle..
My question is if I have to use other things with this? as I've seen people adding Winstrol and sarms into the mix..
Any info is great thanks

Makwa's picture

Did you even check his stats out and now you are recommending just to make sure he gets good anavar. Not cool. I'm getting tired of negging.

SimonM84's picture

Before you take the plunge read up on proper pct protocol in addition to the diet and training. Give yourself sometime homie.

Makwa's picture

I don't want to get massive or anything just some good definition and maybe a couple kgs of muscle..

You don't need any drugs then if that is your goal. Easily accomplished with a sound diet and training program. No point in risking the integrity of your HPTA by using AAS to loose a little bodyfat and gain a little bit of muscle.

irongame427's picture

X2. Your goals are easily attainable with a good diet and lifting program.

Jakal's picture

Thanks for all the info and like i said i am new to all of this never touched anything as i just dont like what ive read about gaining and then loosing.
I have read about alot and spoken to people who have done various cycles, and from what i read Anavar "is the shit" but it obviously isnt, can someone tell me why? it states it is the best for minimal sides and cutting. true or false?
there isnt any need for me to get flamed as im coming here to find the right answers.
im a soccer player and gym 5 days a week cardio included.
the only reason anavar was what i suggested is because of what i read in regards to no water retention and cuttig to niceee deffinition, and people had satcked winstrol and stuff with it, i dont want to but needed to know if it was something you MUST do. obviously not again.
With Test e or c, will i gain and lose it all after?
that is my only issue...

appreciate all the input and sorry again as i am new to everything here.

no cycle history and i will be hitting up the nutrition section now.

Livelife76's picture

I see your 25 @ 15% bf, weight needs to be edited bro... But anyways, no anavar homie, just running a TEST only cycle, either test e or c is fine... not going to layout your whole cycle for you though bro, use the search engine here and READ UP, everything you need to know is on this sites forums. Once you've done your research, post proposed cycle n guys will help if need be correct it, good luck

MedDx's picture

Var is effective when the BF is 10% or less. U will get better results on your first cycle using test only, preferably in cypionate and/or enanthate esters. Hit the diet and nutrition forum, too. Cardio 3x/week and eating lean will help u get the definition u want.

SimonM84's picture

I couldn't disagree more with this statement. So, you're telling me var is not effective at 11 or 12%? 13 or 14? But test is completely fine no matter the body fat? I think this dude should post stats before anyone gives him advice. And just to let you know I've done Var at a higher bf than 10 and it was completely effective. Unless you've experienced shit var It is effective to a guy trying to cut from 15% down. However I agree the lower the body fat the more effective the compound and this dude should hit the nutrition section like you said.

MedDx's picture

X2...i agree with you about the higher BFs...var is helpful...and btw his stats were posted...i try not to respond to anyone unless they are posted...i have used var at 10% bf and it was hard to achieve....everbody is different...your last sentence says it the best...+1

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