posted Tue, 05/17/2016 - 01:45
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ALL YEAR ROUND STEROID USE ?
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Anyone been on the gear for more than two years and noticed any gains. I've been on for 2 years now and can't get bigger or stronger no matter how much gear I take. I'm worried when I come off I will crash and lose a lot of strength and weight.
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What a gem this is smfh
RustyhookerFairly large bucket of dog shit here.
dropdzzive been on trt since i was twenty I am now forty six.I usually have no gains when cruiseing but always have gains when i add a more anabolic mix,or blasting.I usually go fromjust test cyp to sustatren or cyp anavar and the gains start right back.I get bloods often and eat very clean.I take tudca and a glutethione sylimarian alpha lipoic mix and everything works just fine.I would say go see the doctor or get a better supplyer.No gains usually mean fake gear!!!!!
RustyhookerCrashed estro as newbs do all the damn time halts all gains. Crap diet will send one backwards.
dropdzzI absolutely agree with you about the estro and diet,especially when one is not eating enough ,gear is a waste!
Or burnt receptors, or shit dieting, or complacent workout routine.... But sure. Let's go with the fake gear option...
dropdzzPoint taken!although even with shit diet one would usually have some strength gains.Recepter burnout is pretty easy to correct if you know a good doctor.Shit routine is what it is but many gear heads have shit routines and still have gains however I agree with most of you that without blood work you can't really know.This is an underground site and to pretend that no one peddles fake shit is not being honest or intelligent.
I'm just going to summarize my responses to you rather than going through individual posts.
To clear this up first, where did I at all mention karma? My reference was to activity... as in being active on the forums. It wasn't a jab at you personally, so I'm sorry if you took it that way. I was saying it was irresponsible since we have several threads where the OPs are doing things in a harmful way, have members steering them in the right direction, and then have one member (usually very inactive) pop in and basically cosign the OP and BOOM, that's all she wrote from the OP. Take a look at this guys other threads and I'm sure you'll see why I pointed this out. I do believe you have valid points from your own experience, but this user in nowhere near ready for what he's doing.
I was unaware there was a universally agreed upon drug to correct receptor down regulation... care to share a few? I'd love to have something to research during the downtime at the office.
Nobody here is claiming fake gear doesn't get sold, but that's why we have entire sections dedicated to bloodwork, a feedback system, etc. etc. Do some bad apples get through, absolutely... but the OP didn't mention anything about which brand he's been running, what dosages, what lengths, what compounds, etc. We can't say the gear is bunk without any of these answers.
Shit routine is still a routine, and I agree that one will experience gains, albeit minimal, even on a half assed routine. A shit diet however, and all that effort goes in the dumpster. Food is king, no other way around it.
Again, I didn't mean anything personal. I'd love to hear more about your experiences and see you contribute more on these forums because there are tons of things your experiences can shed light on for us other members.
We are on a steroid forum, but this forum prides itself on the safest and most responsible use of these drugs on a per user basis. There are plenty of other forums out there for peddling reckless advice. As i've said before this user is in over his head.
I didn't miss it, but look at the OPs response. Your response should have emphasized he go see a doctor and get his shit in order. I understand that's probably what you meant, but it does not appear as if the OP did... this is an ongoing issue on these forums as mentioned above, where members seek out a single cosign (intentional or unintentional) and go about their day, ignoring all advice of safety.
I didn't mean to attack you personally, so I'm again sorry if I came off that way. I understand you meant well, and simply wanted to share your experience with the guy. Hopefully you can see my side of things as to why I don't believe he should be applying your experience to his issue. I do want to send a FR as I do have a few questions you may be able to answer from a pharmaceutical side.
Regards,
Pasta
dropdzzI see all of your points and a sorry I took it wrong.I look forward to reading more from you!
How would a "good doctor" correct receptor burn out?
dropdzzSeveral drugs can correct Recepter burn out hence pros dosing year round but never seem to have this problem.I see that thrown around on here all the time but it's a lot like Sasquatch or the yeti.Some of you guys with lots of karma points are starting to sound like shills!
Rustyhookercite your source. You throw broscience countered with double talk. Who you calling a shill?
dropdzzI called no one a shill,so don't put words in my mouth I said starting to sound like,and if you followed the tread it was pretty clear only one person said if I didn't have my own bloods it didn't happen.I however can read and have seen several reviews on here and other boards that showed mass specs and bloods that accused ugl of selling them fake gear and under or dosed gear.I also gave an example of high dosed gear that would crash at room temp if it had the dose labeled.That wasn't bro science and there was no double talk,but thank you for your input!
Rustyhookeryou guys with lots of karma points are starting to sound like shills!
You sit in back of class and wait
dropdzzexactly! starting to sound like shills I made no direct accusation,but was still docked karma so go figure.
I was not aware that the debate about androgen receptor downregulation had ended and there were now drugs that I and others should be taking to correct this problem the existence of which is now agreed on by learned consensus in the medical and scientific and athletic communities. What drugs are you thinking about specifically? I and others that dose year round don't seem to have this problem and we don't use any pharmaceutical products to upregulate or clear androgen receptors.
I asked you a question and you cant even provide an appropriate answer, except to resort to name calling....nice...
i am not trying to have a go at you, or ruffle your feathers...lol...
Are you a professional BB? It is possible you may help some people learn on here...always keep that in mind, sir!
FR sent
dropdzzNot trying to have a go at you but from most of your responses I can tell you have knowledge about body building and drugs you also have a boatload of karma so your no dummie.I leave the advice to endocrinologist my specialty is on the pharmacy end.You did seem to imply that one can't learn from reading or from others which isn't logical.i.e. If I didn't buy fake gear it's only opinion.The truth is many have posted mass specs on fake gear on this site.I was only sharing my initial experience with the original poster of this thread and was attacked for saying my experience has been no gains usually equals fake or underdosed gear.I also told him to see a doctor.My second response was to the other guy who said it drove him insane to have a low karma person to even comment.
Noooo...if YOU didnt get bloodwork, then its your opinion...and opinions arent based on fact....
Well, thank God for this site, then, right?
dropdzznow we certianly agree with that!
We welcome everyone here!! Thank you for clarifying what you initially meant to say.
Nice bro...
It fucking drives me insane when you have these random members with no activity drop in and cosign this shit... it's fucking irresponsible! I mean look at the OP's response to the sole "Yeah bro you need more/better gear bro go for it bro" style comment...
dropdzzit's dropdzz and I assure I know quite a bit so don't let it drive you insane.I have a lot of experience but don't really respond on boards much,unlike you.I love how you are on a forum about drugs and talk all that irresponsible shit.Pretty silly in fact.However if you read reviews many ugl put out under dosed gear and also fake gear.I get most of mine from my pharmacy so I know it's real but do have a few friends that run ugl on here.Funny you seemed to have missed the go see your doctor part,yeah very irresponsible!Anyway have a good day!
I disagree with you. Unless you, personally, have experience with "many" ugl's, your statement is an opinion, which is not fact and not based on your own personal bloodwork.
dropdzzTouche!I have a little experience like when a source says it has test cyp with 500 mgs but only mct oil or grape seed oil yet the gear has no stabilizers it's a lie!You can disagree all you want but it's only opinion as well!
Glad you are here at EROIDS bro...look forward to seeing you more in the forums...
dropdzzAnd you I will accept you request as soon as I'm at a stationary computer.
They been thinkin with the wrong head...
Hey bro! I'm tired of all the "regular" members in here trashing people! There is a large and proud community of idiots here and they need their champions as well.
Lm"mf"ao...
Thanks for the reply a lot different answer from the others Lol.
Two words brother.....POST DIET
Post your BF%
BF maybe around 12% No diet.
We learn to walk as we crawl into life...and we would be retarded mentally and physically, if we werent fed and learned how to eat correctly!
Welcome to Eroids...where you journey begins
Don't you love it when you ask someone what their diet looks like and they tell you they're not on one. Lol. Why do most people associate the word diet with losing weight? If you put it in your mouth and swallow it, it becomes part of your diet, even when it's something you shouldn't be putting in your mouth and swallowing.
Yea...thats why i didnt go into detail...lol :)..he got Cats link so he could "brush up" on one of the most important aspects...
As everyone has said... No diet = no gains. Get off cycle already, you're being irresponsible at this point.
BOOOOOM!!
Ouch, gotta research before use. Seek a doc not a forum reply.
That's the only answer I'd give as well.
If you been on gear for 2 years straight your hpta is prob shot receptors saturated and lipids are all over the place not to mention your poor poor liver if your not gaining something else is wrong diet or training or both. A two year cycle and you should be beast .....or dead
I've been on the oils for a good two years however I seldom take orals so I don't have to worry about liver problems.
What? What organ do you think processes trenbolone or nandrolone or boldenone out of your system? Just because your avoiding a "first pass" with orals through the hepatic portal vein doesn't mean your liver is going to be fine. Get a blood test and take a good look at your liver enzymes. But, sit down before you read the test.
The liver has to processes any substance out of the system however injectable steroids have no effect on the liver. Susatnon 250 made by Organon here in Australia the information sheet says it has no effect on the liver. Willian Llewyyenn steroid book Anabolics says the same thing. However I'll get a blood test anyway.
You will notice in my reply that I carefully avoided saying anything about testosterone or mixed esters of testosterone e.g. Sustanon. You are right, IM testosterone has minimal if any effect on the liver. Trenbolone and Boldenone and Nandrolone are different stories bro.
Well, of course you will. That's a guarantee. I hope you're at least a pro athlete with a reason to stay on a high dosage of gear. Your blood work will probably show a lot of damage.
But like pasta asked below, what you have been doing is important to understand.
Have you been B&C for two years or have you been just running a straight two year cycle? You have bigger things to worry about if its the latter.
List exactly what compounds, what lengths, what dosages you've been running.
Two years straight non-stop. I've always taken 3ml weekly of test 250 I switch from Sustanon, Test E, Cypionate. I'm always taken 3ml of boldenone or Deca or Tren E.
So I've been taken 6ml weekly for two years. I take it easy on the orals. I don't stay on them form more than 12 weeks at a time.