Advice for 6th cyle coming up adding a new compound
So I am coming up on my 6th cycle and am going to add prop this time. I have only done test cyp and test e and just added d-bol on my last 2 cycles in my 10 years of doing this. 2 where in my early 20's pretty sloppy, my last 3 were all done properly from A to Z. Bloods ran, bp in check, proper pct. So now I want to expand my horizons and decided prop is the one I want to try. I responded real well to the test at 500 mgs a week and frontloaded my last run for the first time at 1000 all with little to no sides other than the classic lower back pumps that suck ass from the d-bol. So my question is how much prop do you guys with experience think would be sensible for me to run. I have read anywhere from 50 EOD to 150. And many other numbers and all sorts of different time frames. So experience and first hand knowledge from you fellas who are much more seasoned than me would be greatly appreciated. thanks guys.
Age 34
weight 215
Height 5'11
Bf% 10--11%
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mazarLike the others suggested 75-100mg ed or 150-200mg eod should do you nicely. Since you responded well to the long ester tests you will find prop very kind as far as sides go. Also no test hits the libido like prop does so you are in for a treat. Respect for your cycle history you got some patience!
beavisYa, I am anxious to start this next cycle, because I have some var too that i've been hanging on to that I hope to be low enough on the bf% to be able to use.
beavisThanks for the replies fellas, I don't mind pinning everyday, yet......however i am a bit concerned about the severity of the PIP, as my cheeks are the only place i have ever hit, and will have to venture into the ol quads. I prepared and got 400 switchable tip pins for this journey.
Anonif this is the case, getting a good site rotation should be the key focus of your up and coming cycle!
beavisHow long would you recommend running it with test e for a 12 weeker? 4 weeks?
Anonas far as injections go; I would stick with 4 weeks for the prop
AnonGlad to see someone has followed a nice protocol and not slopped on 6 compounds each cycle! so my hats off to you for that brother!
If you can handle it, 100mg of prop ED would be more beneficial than running 150EOD when it boils down to activity in your system..
I'm currently running 100mg ED. Pinning everyday is getting old but I feel great. If pinning ED doesnt bother you I think its the way to go.
tread-m50 to 150 eod as a cycle kinda low. My cruise is at 100 eod on average to 150 if I'm dropping off. 100 ed would be nice if you don't mind the pin and that will be a little more in line with your previous 1000 ew on the long. Might consider the 100 eod if you had a long ester a little lower in there ew with it. You have to keep in mind, prop is not building in value every week. Free test plasma from a single shot is dead and gone in 48 hrs.
beavisThanks for chiming in tread, I was hoping you would bring your knowledge to the table.
tread-mI would think maybe 250 on your test E for 12 weeks and the prop for the whole run at 100 ed if you don't mind the pins. Be sure to hit your delts in rotation and use a 23 Gauge 1 inch there. You will blow those delts up. If you go as joose says and drop the prop after 4 you will need to up the long ester. I personally keep you at 250 on the long and the prop the whole run though unless you just wanted the prop to load the cycle. I love a whole cycle prop though and love my pinning so we all have to decide what we want...lol. in case I didn't say, you need a good supp program with this lifestyle and it should most definately include saw pallmetto to prevent dht to some degree which helps in many ways, particularly with the prostate health. Keep us posted...
beavisThat's an interesting proposal, I'm not going to be starting this for a little bit yet, but I like it, so I may go ahead and pick up some more prop as it will require a decent amount, 250 though? on the long ester? You don't think stay at 500? I don't question your knowledge at all, just curious as to why not stay at 5. or maybe frontload the test E first week and stick with 4 weeks of prop?
tread-mThere is nothing wrong with a prop load and long ester run at all and in that scenerio I would taper the prop post cycle as well to close right up to a day before pct begins. If you run prop the whole run though I think you are fine at 250 on the long just to help with total test values given it saves someone from having to pin too much oil at a time on the daily hits. I love to pin and love my prop though so thats my direction but its just a quirkie thing so I won't sway you one way or the other. Either way you have the compound and you are left with the work in the kitchen and gym. BTW, I don't see a second compound there as you usually run. I think in this scenario you would be happy with deca at about 400 ew. Have you ever ran it? I'd pull it week 10 though.
beavisNo I have never done deca, thought about that one too, but don't like the possible side effects. I have some anavar that I would like to use if I can get bf where it needs to be.
tread-mWith body fat dialed in keep deca in mind for now or the future. It is an absolute staple in this game second only to test IMO. Sides are from improper use with deca, it is actually very smooth and the down side is you will want to run it all the time because you feel so good with it. Your workouts are smoother, post workout body and bone aches are virtually gone and the addition to quality in the cycle is through the roof compared to test only. Deca is a non-issue with sides though brother, proper ratio's with test and the AI on hand for water if needed. Drinking 160 oz of water a day as your minimum and keeping salt in check and you will fall in love! Lol. You can still run a var closer with the experience in cycles and bf dialed in. Bf dialed in has to be your main goal var or no var since it is resposible for estrogen and her 2 dirty cousins and not only robs your gains , it increases shbg which steals your test! Dirty nasty littles parasites! Lol
beavisMan you are full of good, no great info!! Like I said I am still a bit away from starting, so I may consider this as well as I may not be receiving my prop from my SRC.