posted Mon, 10/09/2017 - 07:17
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Hey guys, I'm 5 days out from my competition. My question is has anyone here taken 50-100mg test suspension to fill out the day of competition? I get a crazy pump from it so I see some value, but dont want to get watery and test is normally cut out 4 weeks out for me.
I haven't noticed a single dose ever causing me issues but I'd lile to hear any experience.
I'm currently on 200mg tren ed, 200mg mast ed, 160mg winny ed, and 50mg halo. Been doing this a while, so no need to comment on my doses I am well aware they're high. Thank you.
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So no test for a month prior combined with heavy androgenic compound dosing.
If I took that much Tren or Halo combined with no carbs I would go completely bananas. And the not the good kind of bananas either
Personally, as a rule of thumb, never do anything crazy or out of ordinary prior to show time, save the management of sodium, water, and the final carb up. Adding anything in at the last second as you say could really sabotage your entire prep. Stick with what works for you.
Good Luck
I handle androgens fairly well. I'm already aggressive, but with good self control. And thanks for the advice man!
I agree with a couple others...pics will definitely help us offer insight in general.
With that much gear I don't see it helping you one bit. On the other hand if you are coming into the show right your body should be really depleted and when you carb up you will blow up compared to 48hr before...just don't go to crazy with them and spill over. If you think you can be more fuller after pre judging then I would carb up more but keep them clean so you don't bloat
That's starting to become clear, I look great already ill leave everything as is. Thanks!
R4Jesus...(great name) I will commend you on thinking outside the box.
What many athletes fail to see/do is to experiment either in their off season (shortly after a show) or doing so on lower level shows that are much smaller.
You don't mention whether this is an entry level, a national qualifier or nationals and thus that plays a huge role.
If you don't experiment and take COPIOUS notes you are not going to know what works for YOU.
Many athletes are working with coaches that set them up on the same generic program for diet, supplements and PEA's and that is a recipe for failure.
Not every athlete cuts out test prior to a contest just as not every athlete cuts out some of the "taboo" compounds prior to competing.
The reason is because everyone has a different body chemistry and response to compounds and you cannot know until you personally test drive something if it is not the norm.
I did my comeback show this year and I basically used the least amount possible (I was a natural pro and needed to see what I looked like 16yrs later) but I did utilize compounds that the large majority would question my thought process.
Learned allot about my body at this age and even though I won both my classes including one overall...I know I would not repeat one compound based on the results.
It was a national qualifier and I did only the OPEN category because I wanted to qualify for Nationals in both BB classes. I was confident that even with the ridiculously low amounts of gear and using somethings others feel is a "no go" just because everyone else says so, that I would still WIN because of my stage presence, muscularity, symmetry and proportion alone even if my conditioning was a little off. This is how confident one must be in general much less if you are going to experiment last minute.
My next show I will use far more "hypertrophic" amounts although admittedly for some that you mentioned no where near what you are. To each their own.
In your shoes and if this is a lower entry level show experimenting will have minimal consequences unless you just don't want to take the risk of coming in off.
You don't mention either whether this is your first show or if you are in double digits (I would guess you are experienced competitor based on your dosage use) and with that perhaps do the show without and keep your diet going for another week.
Then, treat the next weekend like its another show and repeat everything but include your new compound in the mix.
Whichever you choose report back on the results!
Stay healthy and train for PURPOSE!!!
Some other food for thought is to NOT over complicate things with either your diet or PEA use. If something works you won't know what did much less if something didn't
Thank you, that makes complete sense. I will do as you suggested and see how I look the following weekend. This is a national qualifier, but I certainly have experience. I've used almost everything in low-high dosages and I keep a close eye on where my sweet spot is as well as my overall health. I dont do this to be healthy though, so I do push limits in every possible way.
And sorry guys, no pics on here for privacy purposes (I know I dont get promos or karma because of this but I'm here for info not free shit). But I can assure you that I look the part.
Thank you all for such great advice, It will probably not be nessecary but I'll still test this out prior to my next show and leave this show the way it is. I simply would be fixing something that isnt broken doing it now. Or ruining something that isnt broken. Lol
Awesome.
Yes, either the weekend after or two weekends after (if you don't mind holding your condition and giving your body a chance to recover a little from this weekends show) will work because when we turn pro, we are likely doing a few shows in a row and it is always about REFINEMENT.
Regardless of the caliber of show (this is an NQ so much better athletes expected than entry) it is all about "who shows up on the day" and/or how many show up.
If you get there and you find yourself light years ahead of your competition or without any others in your class...that would prove to be an opportunity as well where you could implement your experiment for the night show.
Don't change anything else that you would've normally done otherwise except that one addition.
Regarding doses its all about ensuring the dose is effective for purpose and noting where no more substantial gain is seen based on increases.
The funny thing about that is we all likely have read/heard/know that in order to find that next dose of "whoa momma" where you see notable changes cannot be found until you decide to push the envelope a little further.
ie: A few have mentioned that Test at 1grm/week holds not much difference than 1.5grms-2grms/week but when they kept experimenting upwards to 3grm/week it was at that point that the benefit was once again higher than the sides were worth. I do not condone this without having plenty of experience and this is merely one persons experience which may differ from another
No matter what some uses in terms of dosage it will effect them far differently than most and there are some that can handle extreme dosages with little sides compared to some who barely use more than TRT suggested doses and have very negative sides.
A key point is BLOODWORK and monitoring Blood Pressure!!!
I'm a fan of at least 2x per year (for those who are already requiring TRT but experimenting further) for bloodwork and something I personally have to work on more is doing Blood Donation 1-2x per year as well.
Stay healthy and train for PURPOSE!!!
Best of luck this weekend.
I'd advise against it. Carbs will jack you up. Entering the unknown at such a critical point in prep could be disastrous.
If you really want to know how it will effect you do a cut off season and try it out.
Exactly!
200mg tren ed..
Upload a photo mate we need to see you in the flesh!
You are on a damn heavy dosage!
1400mg mast (very high)
1400mg tren (same as above)
1120mg winny (all over 525mg is not neccessary)
350mg halo (lower the dosage 10mgs / daily)
per week.
But thats not your question, so back to your quest.
I wouldn't take any kind of testo on the comp day. (Except you do a powerlifting contest, but this is not what you're doing).
If you want pump/vascularity rule #1 is to take care of the right carb reload. Right unload and reload is the most important thing!
Test Susp. on comp. days can destroy your hardness on the stage. I'd personally use a mix shot of Tren/Winny susp., it makes you very vascular and you have a high androgen level.
To give you a more detailed answer I need a pic of the actual shape, diet plan, actual stats + bf and so on.
Please feel free to ask for further questions and sorry if my advice is not enough for you!
But I hope other comp. members comment here too.
That makes sense, I've never gone that route before so that's why I asked. Thank you!
My dosages are simply what works for me, I get routine blood work done. The high dosed winny was more a an experiment this time and I would agree I didn't get much extra from the higher dose. The halo definitely is perfect at 50mg for me however, because I run it short term for final hardness and sharpening up.
OK anyway, but its a damn high amount of compounds u run good that you care about bloods, hope you do other important medical checks too (heart, kidneys, prostate...)!
The winny was a bad experiment, I'd also advice you: never do "experiments" with crazy high dosages, could give you a backdraft!
If the Halo dosage is fine for you so it's OK but I would lower the dose slowly until day zero.
read robbs post above, very informative and important !
Yes sir I do as my doctor is aware I use supplementation. I appricate the concern (seriously). I was stupid with the winny. Dont think it had any detrimental effects on me though, just unnecessary stress on my body.