3rd cycle - Tren A/Test E
Planning a third cycle now (going to start in about 2 to 3 months). Just researching now and asking questions. I currently have a bunch of Tren A, and a ton of test e. Already got my pct, and caber as well. I'm 5'10" and weigh 195 with 13% bf, and 38 years old. Looking to recomp....get really lean and hard! First cycle was test only.....second cycle was test/anavar. Now that's out of the way...was thinking:
Week 1-12 200mg Test e on Mondays and Thursdays (400 per week)
Week 1-6 25mg every day of tren-A (175 mg per week).
Week 1-12 .25 arimidex every other day
Week 1-6 .25 caber twice per week
Week 1-14 HCG 250 IU twice per week.
PCT clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 20/20/10/10
I'm really not sure on the tren and test dosage....or if the above suits my goals. Really want a lean look....size is not such a huge factor. Will obviously shoot for a calorie deficit for the first part of the cycle to cut... Thank you in advance for any advice you can offer!!
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To all the guys on this thread that gave excellant advices regarding tren and dosages i give you all a +3 karma... keep up this good work guys
Thank you Viking! I honestly just wanted to ensure his safety, and that's why I tried to reply ASAP.. Imagine if he would've had no reply.
Thanks vike!
Wow... Tons of good advice! Appreciate all of it! The only reason I was considering tren is because I got a bunch of it... For a really good price. I just didn't want it to expire and go to waste! But I'm also no idiot and will take your advice and hold off, if that's the consensus. So which compound stacked with test makes a strong cutter? One that is easy on the system. I get no sides from test or anavar. My pct as listed above brought my natty back up in no time flat.... And arimidex has worked really well for me
Bro, great choice! Like I said, I'm running EQ/Test E and LOVING it EQ is one of my fav compounds I have tren like vascularity and my muscles are hard and lean and my hunger is way up. I think you would love EQ if u have it a try, 600mg/wk along with test @ 500-600/wk
A few more quick questions MAC..... From what I've read so far....EQ likes at least 12 or more weeks and is a really long ester. So, If I run say 12 weeks with test, will that be long enough? If I wish to run the EQ longer, can I keep running the test for say 14 weeks? Also, how soon after last pin do I begin PCT? 2 weeks? longer? Sorry to keep bugging you,but I appreciate the input. I read a LOT of conflicting crap about EQ....prefer to hear from someone that knows the substance
I'll roll with eq instead. Thanks again for the great advice. Like I said, I'm still a few months off, but prefer to go overkill on research before I start. As a side note, while taking eq, is there any sides that need addressing (ie... Prolactin for tren, aromatization for test, etc)? Otherwise, I'll start reading as always
And a +3 for you bro for having an attitude which is open to advice.... listen to the guys they will do you right i promise you that.... i have been watching this thread to see if i needed to jump in to clarify things but no need the guys have done a stunning job here.
Thanks Viking..... more than anything I just really appreciate the guidance. Without forums like these, a lot more folks ...like me....would get into trouble
scootertrampThe two below gave the cutter advice sir. Reread. And good gear will last a couple years.
AnonBad idea. Tren/test ratio is off. Plus, it's way too soon for tren. Pct is off as well.
Drop the tren and pick up some eq. Run it at 600/wk for at least 16 weeks. You can frontload it first two weeks to save time on the kick. Also, I'd add some prop. Kick and taper
scootertrampYou're choosing the wrong compounds for a recomp. Cardio yourself down to 10% body fat and try the 50/50/50 program daily. Test prop/mast prop/anavar. Or if you are looking to drop fat while adding lean muscle then nothing is better than test and boldenone. Either route you choose, it is the strict and clean diet that will make your success.
1-16 boldenone 600
1-18 test e 400
And week twenty starts post cycle therapy.
Do you know your aromatase inhibitors and therapy regimines? Please post them.
AnonAt least you staring at only 25 mg a day... your body could benefit from so many other compounds now though, no reason to jump the gun and buy a machine gun (tren) when you can still kill with a .22(EQ, test p kicker, anavar), if that makes sense
AnonI'm not gonna tell you how to live your life, but reconsider the tren. You dont need it for your goals. I got lean as shit on test prop 350mg week while carb cycling and doing 4 sessions of HIIT on top of my lifting.
But to answer your question,
If you dont want size then lower that test dose to 250mg and gradually try to bump the tren up to 300mg.
Low test, high tren. Google it.
Also I suggest prami over caber.
And aromasin over armidex.
Honestly, as your third cycle I would not advise Trenbolone. If you are going to do it, then choose Test P to go with it and inject every day (ED). On the note of dosages, your testosterone should be lower than your Tren. Remember, Test and Tren compete for the same exact receptors, and Tren ALWAYS wins. The reason to take test is to make sure you have testosterone left in your body for libido and the like..
If you do this cycle, which I highly advise not to, I would do Test p 30mg, Tren A 50 Every day (ED).
Caber may be too high, I'm not too experience with that, but I know for a fact that I would start at a lower dosage, approximately .10 for the first few weeks...
HCG, from my own experience, I would not use it. It caused estrogen spikes beyond imaginable, and especially with Arimidex, I would definitely not advise it. Estrogen rebounds will be horrible!
Bro +1 you hit the nail on the head. Definitely inject tren ace every day, less sides. Always run test lower on tren cycles. And if you don't get sides from the tren feel free to run it longer bro. I'm just being real with you. If u can't handle sides drop it and up the test. I am not advising you on running tren 3rd cycle although I don't hate on you for trying it. Everyone has to start at some point but u have to know what's up before u start. Caber should be ran at .25 x2 per wk if that. With a low dose of tren like that vit B6 @ 300-400mg per day will prevent prolactin (google it) I always recommend this to people. ALWAYS have caber or prami on hand tho and run a low dose weekly just in case...B6 is more of a helper. If you wanna run HCG , then take Aromasin. It works better with that than adex like royk said. Bottom line tho...your looking to recomp, have you thought about Masteron? That shit is awesome bro. It's more of a "finisher" steroid but can be used other ways. U seem pretty certain with tren tho and u already have it all. Just listen to the advice and you should be fine, and hey, if it sucks a little bit too much (sides) u can drop it