posted Fri, 05/18/2012 - 06:51
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+ 1 3rd cycle seeking advice
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This is my 3rd cycle im 26 did last cycle in January of 2011was test e 250 2x wk 12 wk with a dbol kicker. My start are 165 5'8" been training for 3 years. I am considered a hard gainer i eat 4000 clean calorieses a day just to maintain my current weight. The cycle is.
1-12 test e 250 2x wk
1-4 test p 100mg eod
6-12 hcg 250iu 2x wk
12-14 test p 100 eod
pct 14-18 3 days after last test p pin
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20
ai on hand
ok changed my cycle to this how does it look now
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Dude,
I would do exactly what Viking says. He knows his stuff. Keep your cycles simple, eat lots and keep it clean. Train intense and to failure and sleep.
Training nutrition and rest are key.If these are good, then a simple cycle of Test E will give you good quality gains.
Try and find a supplier that sells ai, as its good to have it on hand during you cycle.
just changed my cycle take another look at it
thanks
phantom76i dont care for the way this cycle is laid out bro,,, jus my opinion but i think you should drop everything and just run the test at 500 to 600mg a week with maybe a prop kickstart weeks 1-4,, 100mg eod ,, i would leave dbol alone as it is hard on the liver all oral steroids are... you can get all you need from injectables.. start your pct week 14-17 and you should do fine
Reading everything here my thoughts with cycle 3 would be drop all the other shit and run test E @ 750mg wk split.
Massive nutritional knowledge needed here hits the books for hi cal hi protein hi carb foods,and beast the kitchen,keep an ai ON HAND heavy intense brief training,digestants to help break down that protein..NO DIGESTION MEANS NO ASSIMILATION,forget multi pinning hit the test and FOCUS on eating and training.
TEST E @ 750 WK SPLIT. WK 1 - 12.
START PCT 2WKS AFTER LAST SHOT.
This is your cycle,easy pinning with the FOCUS on eating and training this will give you better results than ALL previous cycles trust me.
AnonEat 5000 unclean calories and i bet you'll see some results.
Your cycle needs some tweaking. I agree drop the p mid cycle, add it to the front and keep the p at the end to transition you into pct. Hcg is good personally i like to end it a week or two before pct, just my own personal preference.
Drop the nolva and get yourself an ai, theyre cheap and easy to find
My source does not have an ai that's why i was going to run Nov through to keep the estrogen down. The reason why i was going to run dbol is due to the fact that my body responses well to it and to test e but i have never ran test p so i don't know how my body will respond. My first cycle ever was a dbol cycle and i went from 125 to 155 and i kept 15 lbs of my gains. Then worked out for another year before doing my second cycle in that year i put on 5 lbs putting me at 145lbs. Then ran the test and dbol cycle and put 30 lbs keeping 20 but then i broke my arm and had to take off for 3 months from working out this made me drop back down to 155 lbs. Started working out again and now am at 165. That's a little bit of my history
tread-mProp is testv so you will respond fine give n you have ran test before. Just run the prop for the kick 1-4 and if you have serious pip issues drop it and bounce the dbol in. Not in love with the way you have it there.
you could go without the d-bol and use test-p for weeks 1-6.
from what i can see, it looks as if u are concerned the teste will not kick in by the time you come off of d-bol. (i have seen those concerns in other threads)
(being a hardgainer) be sure to increase your calorie intake big time on that cycle buddy.
*avoid using serms on cycle. use a low dose AI IFFF necessary.
I was thinking of running hcg 1000iu wk during week 12-14 seeing that i would have 1000iu if i did not do this. What do y'all think.