3rd cycle advice...appreciated
Stats: 47 years old. finishing PCT 2nd cycle now. last cycle Test E-250 , 2 pins a week , 12 weeks. Up 19 pounds before pct, 11 after. 11 months ago, 6' 168 pounds. 4000-4200 clean calories/day. Now 6' 205 pounds. 12-15% BF. Never Gyno.
I am in the research/development stage of planning Third cycle. My body rebounds nicely with proper PCT plus additional 2 weeks.
Im Going to run Test E 550/week again. Looking to subsidize cycle with a little more punch.
What would you Veterans recommend I look into? If I run The test E, should I be using a short term PROP Kicker? and suggestions to research would be greatly appreciated...
P.S....Great research site. Ive done hundreds of hours of research here...You Veterans Make the site and time worth while.
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In my opinion the time you are on a cycle should equal the time you are off before your next one. This gives your endocrine and HPTA systems time to rebound.
Sorry just re read it and I can see that you will be giving proper time off. Good work on the gains friend. Have you done any research on HCG or an Aromatose Inhibitor (AI)? This is also my opinion but these are a must for a truly safe cycle.
no hcg...but i use AI (ARMSN)... .625 mg EOD. and thanks for the input. Knowledge is power, and Safety
RustyhookerIf you start just 2Weeks after pct you are headed right for trt. Might look into trt at your age as well. Im right behind ya.
hey rusty....no , i will be waiting 12 + 2 weeks before next cycle. Had bloodwork done 14 mos ago before my first cycle. was spot on where i should be for my age..
im probably only going to do 2-3 cycles/yr...no cruising for me...lol
RustyhookerSweet! Had to ask. Infidel has it below for ya and i agree with him on 150prop to match the bigger dose. Add provi thru cycle.
3rd cycle... If you want to keep with Test then do a Test Prop kick and taper, look something like this
Test E 500-600mg wk, 1-12 weeks
Test prop 100-150 mg EOD, weeks 1-4
Test prop 100-150 mg EOD, weeks 13-16
(100mg kinda weak, I like 150mg)
Same pct and ai protocol as before but start pct 2/3 days after last shot of prop on week 17
You could even add some anavar or Winny to those last 4 weeks during taper to dry you out a little bit, not sure how many compounds you want to add to your 3rd cycle though.
Is the prop going to throw the H2O weight on? My first cycle I was still using Creatine and I held tons of water. No Creatine this go round and Im pretty dry.
Pros and Cons of Anavar vs Winny? and only last 4 weeks?
The test prop will retain less water than the test e will, so if you have no water retention on test e you definitely should not get any on the test prop.
Pros and cons is Winny- pro is that it will dry you out if there is any water retention and will see a strength increase as well as some body fat drop as well as in creasing vascularity,the con is it will speed up the process of hair loss if you are prone to male pattern baldness.prolonged Winny use will destroy joints also.
Pros and cons of anavar: pro/con anavar will give such great pumps sometimes to the point where you can't finish exercise, body fat will drop and vascularity will increase, it will also speed up hair loss but most people will not notice it on anavar
I like anavar better because I'm prone to make pattern baldness if I wasn't I would like Winny more
And you can run up to 6 weeks on both safely, 25mg 3 times a day on anavar a good dose and 2 50mg doses of Winny a day is also a good dose, I wouldn't go less than 75mg of oral Winny a day though, not really worth it. Injectable Winny though at 75mg a day is awesome though
leaning towards the anavar myself. Never tried an oral. some swear is a waste of time and liver function will limit its ability. anavar last 4 weeks of cycle?
RustyhookerLast 6 Weeks. Run your milk thistle too. Right u p til pct starts
Yea, should be a nice 'finisher', do 25 mg with breakfast lunch and dinner, the anavar with compliment the test p nicely
Thank you for the input...Much appreciated