posted Thu, 10/27/2016 - 15:01
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After running 2 successful test only cycles, I'm wanting to add another compound. Looking for lean gains ,and to get stronger. Trying to decide between eq and npp as I don't think I'm quite ready for Tren yet. Wanting to run 12-16 weeks. Don't really want to do an oral(maybe proviron). Any advice would be welcome.
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Height- 5'11"
Weight- 205
BF% - 14%
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Seems like you've had some solid advice from some big names in the community, Count yourself lucky.
donnydon658You should try oral bro!
RustyhookerYou keep quiet
donnydon658Fine, only if you -3 me to 99
Testrogen_PropC...Boom! Just got you to 100.
I'll let the honor of the final -1 fall to someone else.
i got you bro.
donnydon658Thanks guys!
I have ran primo every year for over twentie years. You want lean gains sust at 250mgs primo 600 for 16 weeks. Best gains you will get guaranteed. Eq and npp together wont equal primo even tren. Expensive yes but basically zero sides and worth every penny. Just get bf% below 12 for maximum results.
My second cycle was test 400wk for 14 weeks and deca 300mg wk for 12.... Seemed great fro me but guess it's whatever. Dbol it's harsh and everyone says that's a good go 2 for 2 cycle Hell even with the first half the time ( I wouldn't recommend on first) but ok guys .
Holy Hell guys Sorry. Just a guy here.
At the end of the day people will do whatver they really wanna do....
Learn the ways we advise. Learn our rules of thumb. We all speak and advise from experiance so we can help people not make the same mistakes all of us have done at one time or another. Do this. Or keep your advice to yourself
I can see that i do need to learn the way (you guys) advise for sure. An you know what, my bad. Im sorry.....only reason why i went that route cause of first hand experience and i thought that what this was all about. For me it ended up being a great 2nd cycle for ME(hes on his 3rd) so i figured Id give him what IMO was not that bad of a 3rd cycle, test and deca or npp....
But again everyone is different and maybe i should have worded my advise different. Like saying Im not recommending this (test deca mg etc) but it worked well for me with no really bad sides etc.
RustyhookerWell at the end of today I felt the need to -4 You. Shit happens
(thumbs up)
OK thats your choice. I mean, this is just a online forum.... Dont see how that effects my life in anyway. Your prerogative.
I never ran privo before But i say keep it simple man. Age previous cycle dosage would help along with maybe showing what your training and nutrition is like. But something simple like say
test eth 500wk 12wk
npp 300wk 10wk
and if you want maybe anavar or abrol
or
test eth 500wk14
Eq 400wk 12wk
again avavar if you wanted to or dbol
this is just my 2 cents man.
or if you wanted to try tren out
test eth 500mg 12wk
tren eth 300mg 12wk
There are some that like to run tren higher then test like(test 300mg wk/ tren 500mg wk)
but i never tried cause Ive has great success with running them close in doasge.
Testrogen_PropC...Oh yeah, all he's ever ran before is test so let's recommend he tries the harshest compound known to man as his second compound ever.....good thinking. (Face palm)
smfh
its his 3rd cycle and you suggest he runs tren enth? WTF
and whats with EQ at 12wks?............ thats about the time it kicks in...................... ;/
idk man........ i think you should check your info before jumping in like this again..... this is very poor info.
I saw privo and stopped reading...:)
Good eye, bro...
i know he says its his 2cents.............. but when its worthless info even 2cents can be fkn dangerous
Recalculate your BMR with and without activity! Post it up and post your goals with a correct cal/mac plan...before you cycle you need pre cycle bloods...I'm glad your here...learn something from it...:)
Trying to find a reliable calculation for BMR
Bodybuilding.com - 1977 cal/day
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bmr_calculator.htm
muscleandstrength.com without activity 2367 with moderate 3058
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/tools/bmr-calculator
Thats a very large difference. How do I accurately determine BMR? Link please.
Try this http://m.globalrph.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalrph.com%2Fharris-bene...
Chose your appropriate activity level and pay attention to the explanation around variances. Remember this is just a guide but a good one.
Thx dude..:)
The maximum you can add is another tablets , still early for eq or npp , if you look to lean stronger muscle read about tbol or dbol , not more . Provi you can use it to increase your free test , but watch out your hair .
Thumbs up for coming here and asking about the cycle before starting it, bro.. can you post an unidentifiable pic?
I must be dumb, can't figure out how to post a pic from my phone
You'll figure it out...just don't forget
If I add proviron is aromasin needed? I'll have plenty, don't know if both are necessary.
Yep Makwa said it best..you need to keep an AI of choice on hand.
Don't rely on provi as an AI.
So run the aromasin as normal, thanks. My name is not Bob. I don't want bitch tits!!!
Past bloods will help dial you in, bro, and also knowing how you aromatize...
How'd you run your AI last 2 cycles?
12.5 MG aromasin eod starting week 4. Didn't do bloods. I know, not the smartest route.
False statement then, bro...this statement requires Post Cycle Blood Work to be relative...didn't do bloods...damn
Whats the test dose you're planning on using for this next cycle?
500 wk Test E with a prop kick for 4 weeks of 100 eod for the 1st 4 weeks. If I add provi what amounts? Would 25 MG ed work? I see some people posting higher doses but I'm not trying to wreck myself
Yes 25mg ed is a good dose and frequency. Get some pre cycle bloodwork, please...
Have a read of these posts. You may learn something useful
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-you....
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/anastrozole-....
The links are going to Cat...meow..lol
it's been happening lately, especially with Macks links.. :/
anytime there is a period at the end of the link it will not work. Mack will have to edit out the period so linking it will work.
I know..I tried doing it even deleting the period...and it still wouldn't transfer... uhhh :/
Testing to see if this works now....
And nope it didn't. OP go look in the PCT forum there are some posts on AI's which will be relevant for you.
I'll PM mack and let him know to take the period off so that those posts can be linked.
Okay...why didn't I think that??..lol thanks boss
Try adding just the Provi. Will free up test allowing you to make better use of it on your cycle. What about diet and training to achieve these lean gains?
I'll be going back to a keto diet, calorie surplus this time. High rep/volume workout routine along with some hiit.
keto diet with high rep/volume workout routine?
I....don't....understand your reasoning....
me neither.......... thats why i just sat back watching the thread instead of posting
Bulking on a keto diet. Why?
How much HIIT are you doing?