33 year old virgin
Virgin here looking in to pop my cherry with a Test E only cycle; modeled after the “Testosterone Cycle #1,” mentioned in Anabolic 9th ed. Pg. 70.
It consists of:
Test E 200mg Week 1-2
Test E 300mg Week 3-5
Test E 350mg Week 6-7
and,
All weeks: Lipid Stabil (3caps/day)
Fish Oil (4g/day)
Tamoxifen (20-40mg/day) or Anastrozole (0.5mg/day)
with,
Bloodwork done at week -2, 5, 12
My questions are: What would be a suitable PCT protocol for this cycle? Which of
the two between tamoxifen, and anastozole do you recommend to take during the
cycle? And, should I change when I get bloodwork done?
I’m 33 5’9” 245 22%bf, and looking to put on 7 pounds while dropping some bf% by cutting @ ~2000 clean cals in macros of 40:40:20 on a 4 day split. Started lifting seriously at 20, dropped the ball around 25, then back onto the scene a couple yrs ago. Used Andros (pro-hormones), almost a decade ago when I was in the same shape (maybe 10lbs lighter), but some bf, and got the same result I’m expecting off this.
Was originally thinking of an Oxandrolone-only cycle at first but as I’ve been reading countless forums looking for the right cycle, everyone is always responding to those who ask with, “just do test.”
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You sound like you are trying to trim down and taking test at your bf% could be contradictory to your goal.I would get some clenbuterol and trim down for a month,then bang the test. 7 pound on ten weeks of test e is no problem and if your bf% is lower more of the weight you put on will be quality.
Front load the test and go right into the 350. Test e has a half life of around 8 days but I will use 7 so it makes sense for one week.
1: inject 350
2: inject 175 + 175 left over = 350
3: inject 175 + (87.5+87.5) left over = 350
4: inject 175 + (87.5+43.75+43.75) left over = 350
you get the idea. This way your blood levels start out stable from day one. This way you will hit your stride faster and your levels will remain in range of your weekly goal. good luck
Thanks for the 411!
I was thinking I may do the 500mg (250 x2/w), for 10 weeks, from the get-go.
Any thoughts on the Lipid Stabil & Fish Oil (i.e. maintain the aforementioned dose, drop it, or up those amounts)?
FYI: Aside from the Test E, I'll only be taking CoQ10, Chrom. Pico., a Multi Vit., and whey (...obviously), to keep this as barebones as possible. I'll PCT with Tamoxifen 2 weeks after last pin 40/40/20/20, and have Anastroloze on hand.
You need to take that bf% down before you start any cycle. Train hard, diet harder, and get that bf% down to make any AAS to work at an optimum level. Also you need minimal 10 weeks for the compound you are using.
Ya, dropping my bf% more would be the only thing to keep me off the gear for a little while longer. Although, when I was around the same "stats" in the past, I added andro (PH), to a clean diet and hard 4 day split, and leaned up pretty nicely; with some good muscle gains. Was assuming the Test E would do the same (if not better), for me. Am I wrong in this logic?
sgtstedankoAAAAHHHHH, welcome brother! I've done something similar to this w/A-50s in the mid/late 90s... I've been informed by very knowledgeable bros on here that pyramiding is outdated, and upon further research myself, Pm's, google, etc, etc, etc. They were absolutely right on dial with every piece of info they gave me. Thanks Juicin:) IMO, You would bump up your test to 350-500 and run it for 10 weeks... Also you could run 50 to possibly 80mgED anavar to your cycle the whole time. I would. Feel free to pm me. Research, research, research. TONS of info on site already:)
What if I just bumped it to 350mg/week for 7 weeks?
I really want to do a Test-only cycle to see how it interacts with my body. That way I have a basis for future use; hence wanting to keep the dosage low as well.
I've read tons of PCT info on many forums but could not find anything definitive for a low-dose Test-E cycle; with post-PCT follow-up results.
Straight test is the way to go for first cycle bro far as dosage goes 500 is pretty standard but I don't think I'd go lower than 400 (for any respectable gains) and still wouldn't run anything less than 10 wks. it can take test 4-5 wks to kick in so 7 wks is like pulling out and NOT cummimg (IMO)
LOL, nice analogy!
I was more of the mindset that I wanted to flirt with her b4 I fcuk her.
But, will 500 still allow me to make clean/lean gains while being able to shred up a bit (keep in mind my current build and bf%)?
Gains will be determined by diet and training bro
That's a given.
In my original post I mentioned the basics of the diet, and workout I'd be doing. Following that, I have a hard time visualizing that 500 would be worth it. If it would be, let me know; if not, then what dosage would?
500 (250 2Xwk) for 12 wks should be impressive with proper diet and training
get an AI (armidex, aromasin) and keep it on hand. this being a first cycle it is unknown if you are gyno prone (at 500 shouldn't be an issue unless you are hyper sensitive) so its good to be prepared
PCT nolva 40/40/20/20
I'm going to respectfully disagree with the first part of this. It's your first cycle and it would be my suggestion to take a lesser is more approach and find out how your body interacts with the compound. You may find, and I think you will, that 300mgs of Test E is more than enough. For guys like me and hllwdbdboy 500mgs is pretty standard. We know this no doubt because we have substantial interaction with the compounds and we know what to expect and how our body will react. It's a long haul process, brother. Take it slow.
Ok, thank you for a direct answer!
I just want it understood that I plan to strictly adhere to the basic diet & workout routine I mentioned above because I know how my body responds to those; therefore I want those to be the controlled variables. How my body responds to Test E is what I’d like to find out, so I want the Test E to be the only independent variable in this cycle.
We're in the same boat, Im in my 2nd week of my first ever cycle of Test E (250mg every 3/4 days aswell as arimidex 1mg every 3 days. Formastanzol on guard aswell...
Nice to hear!
Would be great to compare notes post-PCT!