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2nd Cycle, please give your opinion

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Alright gentlemen, I feel like I've done enough research to be able to cover all the necessary points but I still want your opinions before placing my order:

26 years old
170 lbs
5'10
14 % bf

Even though Im not a big guy, im not looking to put on a lot of mass. I'd prefer a lean cycle

10 week cycle:

Week 1 - 4: T-bol - 30 mg/ day (kick off cycle)
Week 1 - 10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg)
Week 1 - 10: 300mg EQ per week (2 injections of 150mg)
week 1 - 12: 1mg Arimadex every other day
Week 4 - 12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's)

The purpose of the EQ goes back to wanting a leaner look. My question is whether it can be mixed and injected at the same time as the test?

Im prone to back acne, even before being on a cycle, do you think any of these compounds make it more likely for me to break out again?

Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

Champion Of The Mind's picture

The test will more than likely cause you some estro-sides i.e acne... But with the application of an A.I I think it would help keep the acne at bay. I wouldn't worry about the T-bol doesn't convert to estrogen, though I have read about there being estro-sides in rare cases. From looking at your stats I would advise you to take on a better nutritional plan. Possible keeping a count of your calorie intake and reducing it each day. Diet is the foundation to fat loss and hypertrophy. You can't really depend on the drugs to do the work. You to are expected to do your share of the work, and even if you did depend on it, what happens when you stop? Right back where you started, I've seen it happen. Step one diet and training... one step at a time...I promise it'll work, and you'll feel so much better about yourself.

FITPRO's picture

Yeah u will pry get more acne.. Some have had success with accutane but you will have to stay out of the sun if your on accutane

TheFlash85's picture

test e, provi, ai on hand , pct, vitamins, bcaas and food theres a decent run, the rest is just troll food.

CGrat's picture

Excellent advice gentlemen, time to go back do research and build myself a proper meal plan. Can anyone recommend a thread?

crazymofo's picture
tzelukie's picture

If you can't commit to writing down a good constructive diet so the big boys on here can help you out how are you going to commit to training and meal prep? Got to clear that up first friend! With out that first you will just waste your money or end up a slob with an extra helping of side effects, or worse.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

+3 solid advice bro.

mTor's picture

Keep it simple. The test e at 500mg will easily help with leaning out/adding good muscle gains. If you want a kick starter, do d Bol 20mg/day for 3-4weeks, run some Nolva about 10mg/day to combat some of the bloat. Or run some test prop the first 3 weeks, like 75mg eod with the test enanthate, if you really don't want d Bol.
Scrap the HCG, the adex, EQ and tbol. EQ needs a long cycle to be effective and that's a low dose, HCG is unnecessary, adex is too much and t Bol isn't the greatest kick starter because it doesn't lead to rapid gains.
I'm the same height as you. My profile picture is from several years ago, two days pre contest. I was dehydrated, and carb depleted and still weighed 2lbs more than you. I seriously recommend doing a lean bulk cycle. If you diet down, you'll end up at 155 and look like a Abercrombie and Fitch model, not a gym gunkie.
Viking has a great recipe for a protein shake that's 1600 calories. I myself can't handle the whole thing so I made a few changes which made it 900 calories but it's helped me put on 5lbs in 5 weeks. I really recommend you put on more mass before you cut.

TheFlash85's picture

not good advice mate.... he needs diet and nutrition before touching juice again, and he would need an ai for dbol, nolva doesnt stop aromatisation

mTor's picture

I don't know why the hell I wrote nolvadex...
You're right though. He dose need more nutritional advice
What doesn't make sense is he said he is very skinny and his stats prove that, but he wants to cut?

cdyrdes's picture

And the stats on this post dont match stats on your profile dude .....?

CGrat's picture

I just filled them in quickly a while back, whats posted above is correct and Ive updated my profile

cdyrdes's picture

Makwa is right man. Dial in the diet and there would be no need for aas. U have a lot goin on for a 2nd cycle

Makwa's picture

You are pretty lean/light for your height. If you are just trying to cut some bodyfat your best bet is to get your diet dialed in. No need for AAS with your stats to do that.
The EQ in your proposed cycle is no good. Not nearly long enough and to low of a dose to be of any use. Drop the Tbol. You don't need that for your goal. Overkill with the arimadex. To much and starting it too soon. No need for the HCG with the short cycle you have planned. You need to lay out your PCT also.