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Hey guys I'm currently finishing up pct and I'm trying to figure out what my next cycle should I just want some opinions and thoughts I know the 2nd cycle should be strictly test but I'm planning on entering a show next year and I want an edge any In put appreciated

Stats:
6'1 ht
202lb
13%
Cycle:
Test e x 2 300 mgs wk1-15
Test p kicker/taper wk 1-4 15-18 100 mgs
Dbol wk 1-4 30mgs
Proviron wk1-15 50mgs
Hcg 250iu x2 wk 8-17
Var 50-75 wk 10-15
Adex .5mgs-1mgs eod 1-17 or asin 12.5am/pm
Also if I'm planing on competing should u just bridge cycles ?? Or jump completely off ...... Btw I'm taking proper time off so I'm planing to run this like in march also will be taking bloods regularly ..... Will be watching macros and dieting properly all the way through please any input appreciated especially by those of you who get on stage -thanks for ur time

BawsDawg's picture

if youre not comfortable with pinning EOD for the entire time then think about changing esters a few weeks before the show. Im doing something similar because I couldn't stand doing EOD pins for the entire cycle

for example, if the contest is at the end of week 15:
Test e/c weeks 1-10 2x week
Test p weeks 10-15 EOD
Winny or Var 10-15
AI of your choice

Each show will be a learning experience as far as when to drop/add certain drugs/esters. BUT if your show is on a Saturday night then last pin Wednesday night or Thursday if you handle shots well but Test P is known to cause PIP issues. No need to be limping around on stage trying to pose! But you will know how your body reacts to test p from the previous weeks of pinning
continue orals through the show

some competitors increase AI and winny/var dose the last week or 2 before the show to "dry up" but without a coach to watch and guide you, you will basically be experimenting with what will work for you

Start PCT the day after as your test would have cleared

research a bit on "dropping drugs pre contest" and see what others have done, there are many "protocols" and you will find out on the day of the show if you picked the right one!
dropping test p too early may result in a less full look, increasing AI too high could crash estrogen and make PCT harder , etc...

Good luck!

Hustle28's picture

Thanks alot man sounds like a pretty decent cycle hopefully I can atleast plae in the show I'm really motivated

BawsDawg's picture

I feel you this is my first time using gear for prep. My last 2 were drug free.

I have a buddy who drops test a week out but ups mast p from 100 EOD to 150eod and increases oral winny from 75mg ed to 100mg ed the last 2 weeks.
He also adds in letro.

People do all sorts of things to get an edge but as others have said the 12 weeks before the show are more important than order of dropped drugs. No protocol in the last week can make up for a bf% that's too high.

Hustle28's picture

Nice so when I get really low just add a little mast and winny I got u but how would I dose the letro??

vhman's picture

That's six compounds for your second cycle. Even with you competing, I think it's too much.
I like the prop kicker and taper. I would drop the drol and probably the car as well. Provi is fine. Learn how this stuff all works with your body and diet before you move to the advanced cycles, especially bridging.

Hustle28's picture

Could I add eq?

vhman's picture

I wouldn't this run.

Hustle28's picture

Ok so drop dbol an var ..... What could I add to somewhat help my physique on stage?

vhman's picture

As far as stage, I'll let others weigh in.
How you look is more about diet and prep than your aas regimen right now. Don't over complicate this, especially for your first show.

Makwa's picture

Diet and prep are the key. The drugs won't make up for a poor diet or lack of prep. The drugs at this stage are mainly to preserve your muscle mass while on a strict diet and to help polish and harden your physique once you have obtained the low BF.

Hustle28's picture

Ok so in ur opinion with just test alone I should be able to achieve the stage ready look?? I'm skeptical cuz even though I achieved good results I didn't see the crazy vascularity or hardness

Makwa's picture

If you are in the 4% BF range you should have plenty of vascularity and hardness with test alone. Controlling your estro is key here so that you come in hard and dry. You are not looking for "freaky" vascularity or musculature for a physique show, you will likely be penalized for it if you come in looking like a bodybuilder. This is what i would recommend for contest prep for a pysique show for a beginner.

weeks 8-1 125mg Test P EOD
8-1 50-75 mg proviron ED (This will help to harden you up)
Week of show (if you think you are retaining to much water cut the prop in half or drop it completely)

This drug protocol will spare your muscle mass and provide some hardness provided you diet correctly.

Be sure to research prep protocols for what you should be doing with water intake, carb manipulation etc, crashing estro etc. You may or may not want to try them, they can give you the edge or backfire completely so be ware. Your first show is going to be a good learning experience so take detailed notes and then you will know what works and what doesn't for the next one.

Hustle28's picture

Thanks brother ill be updating when I start and monitor and log the process for future beginner members

Makwa's picture

Is this the cycle you plan on running right up until show time or will you be running a different one for the show? Not an ideal pre-contest cycle. Seems like you want to bridge into another cycle for showtime which is a bad idea. Bridging doesn't allow you HPTA to recover and you can be on a quick road to TRT.

Hustle28's picture

Well I wanted to to bridge this cycle to pre contests cycle I juts want to know which compound will give me that edge on stage to look lean dry

Makwa's picture

Are you looking at physique or bodybuilding? Two totally different ballgames.

Hustle28's picture

Physique maybe in the future graduate to bb

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