2nd Cycle, EQ,Test E and Prop or just Test E and Prop cycle?
Arimidex .25mg e3d to keep bloating down.
HCG 250iu 2x a week.
Week 1-4 TEST Prop 100mg EOD
week 1-12 TEST E 300mg twice a week
week 1-14 EQ 300mg twice a week
week 12-14 TEST P 100mg EOD
Start PCT 3 days after last injection.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Or remove the EQ and run Prop 1-4,10-12 and Test 1-10.
I am only considering swapping to a test only cycle due to not wanting to shut down my system for such a long period of time.Do you guys think my gains will be increased much by the EQ?
My first and only cycle was Test P 100 EOD for 8 weeks and gained about 7kgs, to be honest since it was my first PCT I did not take it seriously enough and believe I could have kept more of my gains than what I did.
Any advice is greatly appreciated cheers.
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tread-mWell first, nice work here, a tad off but barely. How old are you?
26, 5,9 and 78kgs about 10% BF.
What do you think is off buddy?
tread-mI'd carry my E the full 14 and my prop 15-16. Realistically I like Eq 16 and close a 17-18 prop taper. Having said so, I think you pull nice gains off of your number two option and that's where I would go in your case. As you mention , didn't have great success in "keeping" gains and while you may well have had pct issues, more often than not gains are cause and effect and you changed the cause. You can't gain with one diet and keep with another so diet is the beginning, the middle and the end. The end being when you are through building forever...lol. you just have to have a yr round diet to maintain. At your age keeping gains is much easier than down the road because you have the high quality test running through you now. This means protei. Synthesis is at an all time high for you in this period of your life, you just have to get it in high volume in a prope diet. Going back to 2500 cals post cycle will not keep what you gained on 4000 cals on cycle. I really thing the second option is where you go her bud. Learn to keep those gains in this one and learn to solidify those gains as you close the cycle by getting really clean in the close and very clean in the carbs so you get the gains nice and hard in the end and have less crap on you going into pct. In the post cycle. Run the proper pct keep the gym heavy but maybe get out of the gym a little quicker while you reboot natty to keep from burning too many cals and keep the diet strong. Drink a ton of water on cycle and limit salt, stay clean and healthy a d rip it up!
Cheers heaps for putting in the time with your reply mate. I will give the E and prop only a try and maybe next course mix in the EQ. I am in no huge rush, and as you said diet is the key and I did learn that on my first course. I still have to get blood work done before I start, and was looking to get blood work during.
What week should I get my blood work done to give everyone a good idea on how good the gear is?
tread-mYou should know how good the prop is very early but if you want an overall picture of the whole cycle I'd say about the beginning of week 5. Before you begin take your bp for about 3 days, maybe even twice a day morning/night. Then after you begin about days 3-6 do the same. You should have an increase in bp and heart rate Indicating the prop is kicking. That's only one indicator and with low bf and being young, no prostate swell etc, you should see more random increased sex drive pretty soon as well. With prop you begin running up test levels very quick but at your age you likely have pretty high test levels so for you there may be some trade off time before it kicks really well. The trade off is where the prop is increasing test telling the natty to begin to shut down. Just pound a lot of water down here and keep salt low along with your big clean diet in a 6 meal plan and this treats you very well. Would not hurt at all to speed the process and hit that prop ed for the first week then back to your plan here week 2. Might get you to stability quicker that way in the trade off.
Start PCT tomorrow mate, went with the prop and E only cycle and pretty happy with it. Was all ARL gear I found the prop was amazing and while on only E I didn't feel anywhere near as good compared to just E.
Anyway gained 7kgs but my bulk was a bit dirter than I planned for so for the last 2 weeks on cycle I really dieted it down and lost about 1.5kg and still have kept my muscle.
Start PCT tomorrow so will keep ontop of diet and short hard training sessions. When would be good to get my blood work done for PCT?