posted Mon, 07/16/2018 - 00:34
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1st timer user, can I use test and var
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1st time user I'm 50 yo, 5'7" @ 205 bf around 31%.
I have var that I was going to use to cut up, but I was thinking of stacking with test to gain some mass as I cut.
1. which test should I use ? Ciponate or propionate or some other form?
2. What else should I be using for estrogen levels?
3. How long of a cycle do you recommend and dosage ?
4. Which pct?
Thanks in advance
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RustyhookerAt 50....im close in age....get full blood screen from your dr. Ask for hormones in particular. Test, estro, thyroid, fsh, lh....etc
Any disturbances in those can slow anything you do as well as more harm than good.
Ive seen dozens of guys in here just like you that needed trt make all their gains, goals etc on just trt. Most folks arent here to be massive in our age group. Its simply to be fit and happy.
basskiller89I will agree to help for 40% of your gains
All the answers to these Very basic questions can be found online in 5 minutes, people have better things to be doing than going through each of these 4 irritating questions and holding your hand....
I’m not trying to be rude also
but you have to lower your body fat first then think about to cycle otherwise the majority of testosterone you’ll run will convert to estrogen
What you need a good diet I won’t suggest you to use anavar or any other drugs first you have to find diet that will work for you
I appreciate all these comments. Constructive criticism it's all good. I did d-bol and anadrol50 back in the early 90s. Got a headache from anadrol. Pretty good gains on the dbol and I probably did them wrong. I remember starting with 10 pills/day and every week lessen by 1. 10 week cycle. Started getting some gyno and my back broke out bad.
There is alot more technology today, so I just want to do it right. I'm going to cut out most carbs and try to do some cardio (which I find very boring). I'm going to get my BF down and hope to do a cycle of test over the winter. I have a big drinking weekend coming up in early September, Bike week in NJ, want to watch my liver.
If you lose fat I’m sure your test level will jump up
Dbol and anadrol at the same time bad choice will do damage to the liver you already know this by now
Enjoy yourself brother go have fun don’t limit yourself because you have diet but at time don’t drink every weekend hahaha cardio will help you big time 400ng it’s not bad imo you still can jump it up naturally
Good luck to you
That’s actually a myth.Lots of older guys lose their bellies after starting TRT.When your test levels are low it’s almost impossible to burn belly fat.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^boom!
he didn’t mention he has low T a lot of guys his age jacked without trt and they still making gainz but I agree with you low T hard to lose fat and gain muscle
He mentioned it below .He is within Medical range but only at 400 ng/dl.For a lot of men that is actually low.If he can get it up to even 700ng/dl he will notice a difference.
I’m not trying to be rude or start an argument or fight with you. But I want you to understand that all of your questions are the most basic questions there can be regarding steroids. You need to spend the next couple weeks reading and learning and understanding the fundamentals. Also, use the search button because all the things have been answered 10,000 times.
No sir. If you were to cycle, test is all you need & for safety reasons you only introduce one compound at a time to a cycle. You never know how your body will react to it.
400-500 mg of test only would be enough & if that didn’t help no other steroid would either. I would just keep dialing in my diet & kick up the cardio before doing anything.
Here’s some links to help study on;
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/a-must-read-for-...
Anavar isn't a diet drug...
basskiller89Just reading "diet drug" did it for me lol ..
But what if i substitute it for twinkies or ho ho's.
Then is it considered a diet food
"5'7" @ 205 bf around 31%"
The only things u should do is a good diet and a coordinated workout routine/cardio.
1,2,3,4. All questions that can be meaningless to you right now!
Ok let me further explain, I've been training naturally for years, taking regular supplements like myplex or whey. I've trained most my adult life. About 5 years ago My work changed and no longer as strenuous as before plus a bad diet I ballooned up to about 230.
January my new years resolution was to get back in shape. I am now 205. I just had a testosterone blood test and it's at 400 where the range should be from 250 to 1200. So I dont have low T . I've decided to do a cycle or 2. I have anavar and was looking to stack it with testosterone. I feel I need the help because I'm no where near what I lifted and I'm finding it hard to cut up like in my earlier years.
Your levels are twice as good as mine were at your age. Still, I was able to get my levels up with diet and exercise.
Eat and train like you were on a cycle (research). When your BF is in the very low 20's (preferably lower) then try a simple starter cycle (research).
400 T level is pretty good, especially for your age. Cut that BF% in half and I would expect a pretty good bump in your T level which should make you feel years younger. Way to early to be running a cycle right now.
I think you could see good results just getting your test up.Like jarhead said start with test and only add as needed.Youve already cut 25 pounds so you’re in the right track.
When you are ready yes test cyp and anavar is a good relatively safe stack.Keep doses low and estrogen shouldn’t be a problem.Get blood work day be regularly to be sure.
Good luck
When getting blood work, am i looking for cholesterol levels and liver levels?
You want a full panel plus estrogen and testosterone.cholesterol and liver is very important but so is RBC hemocrit and many other things.If you can find a doctor that you tell the truth to.You may only need the test and nothing else.
It’s understandable that you want to do a cycle. So get down to 15% body fat or less and then start the cycle. Do not start the cycle now when you’re at 31% body fat and your estrogen is already through the roof. Testosterone is not a fat burner and neither is Anavar.