1st cycle Test E/EQ help/ PCT rec
Hey guys! I'm running my first cycle soon and just want to run the plan through you guys for thoughts and suggestions. First I'm 33 yo on a bulk heading up to 198lb powerlifting weight class. Currently at 193 gaining between .5-1lb a week. I eat about 7 meals a day and although I don't track id say I eat about 2800-2900 cals, with roughly 300g of protein, 200-240 carbs and 80-85g of fat per day.
I understand on a first cycle it's best to start wth only one compound but I've read about EQ and feel it would be a good basic compound to stack with Test E. I'm trying to limit bloating,and the mass I stack on I'm looking for it to be lean wth my diet. I'll run 250mg of Test E with 300mg of EQ E3D for 16 weeks since that is the minimum required cycle time for EQ. I'll also be running .25mg ED of Arimidex once I start seeing symptoms like bloat, Itchy nipples, etc but not sooner.
Now my question is thoughts on cycle? Should I run HCG on week 13-17 to ease the boys back in? Also, As for PCT, I've heard various schools of thought on start times and what to take. Since this is a basic stack, is it necessary to run clomid and nolva together or is nolva enough?
EQ requires a pct start time of 21 days after last pin and Test E says 14 days after last pin. Should i work the following for timing:
W 1-16-EQ
W 1-17-Test E
Arimidex on hand and .25mg ED once sides arrive.
Week13-17 HCG?
PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid?? What dosage 100/100/50/50?
I know this is a lot of info thrown out but your help is greatly appreciated.
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Just an update and another question for you guys::::
I ended up just going for a Test E only cycle. Currently using GP Test E 500mg/week (mon am, thu pm pin schedule). I have liquid aromasin from Rasa that I will start to take on week 4 (I also have adex on hand just I case but will only take aromasin)
Questions::
1)I understand the standard Test E cycle should be 12 weeks. I have a powerlifting meet in 14 weeks. Is it a bad idea to start pct the week of the meet or just run the test for 14 weeks, then start pct on week 16? Again I know the standard calls for 12 weeks but just curious due to the circumstances if it will kill some strength for the meet if I start pct the week of the meet.
Pct= nolva and clomid (liquid from Rasa)
2) I've seen conflicting info in here of how long I should run aromasin. should I run aromasin all the way through non stop until the end of my pct (12 or 14 weeks depending on question above+2 weeks off after last injection+4 weeks of pct or just 12/14 weeks of test e cycle only?
Thanks in advance for all of your help so far. This is a great environment to learn and I appreciate all your time.
This is to much and to long for a first cycle. 10-12 week's test only cycle is the way to go.
As a first run don't doubt what test alone will do for you.
RustyhookerCatalyst has you correct. It comes down to test only because that will always be your base. Regardless of high/low test bast you need to know your reactions to the true male hormone.
First cycle its common to see 15 pounds added. Bloat is easily controlled with foods and vitamin c.
Stacks. If you have a problem on a stack, which is the culprit? That alone takes the trial and error backed by bloods so you're not just guessing.
Bloods. Week 5 will help you dial in your estradiol to maximize gains. Low estro halts gains. Higher can boost mass. Too high and you get the emotional estro issues.
whats your bf at currently?
Bf can raise estradiol if its high. You also mentioned powerlifting which is by weight class. Catalyst is a good dude on foods.
All very good points. My BF is currently about 20% at 193 Bw current plan is to up weight to 205 and water cut 6-7 lbs week of meet. I normally compete at 181 and walk around at 175. I'm averaging .5-1lb a week of weight with 7 meals. Carbs in the AM at first meal, pre,intra (dextrose with creatine and protein shake), and post workout meals.
You're going to be shut down for close to 20 weeks. Recovery will be more dificult than from a single compound, shorter cycle. Take that into condideration.
Shouldn't be running multiple compounds first run, nor should it be such an extended cycle in terms of duration.
fair enough, can you offer a suggested cycle time? Test E 250mg twice a week only for 12 weeks? Adex on hand until symptoms start then start .25 ED? Nolva for pct 2 weeks after last pin 40/40/20/20?
I suppose I can hold off on EQ for 2nd cycle. Better to do this smart and correct.
12wks is a good plan. Some argument over best way to use AI's, on hand or start around wk 4, either way has merit. If you can get blood work done it takes the guessing away.....
PCT you need nolva and clomid. Nolva on its own isn't sufficient. Re below, Monday / Thursday is fine.
All this info you can find here to read through at your own pace. Have a look in the groups section under community, beginner cycles.
Next time post up your stats when asking for cycle advice. Copy and pasted from your profile:
Stats
Age: 33
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 185
BF:
Could really do with you clarifying the BF% as well, even if it's an estimate.
Oh also, is it best to pin E3D with this dose or just twice a week on specific days (I.E. Mon morn, Thu night)