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I'm just about to start my first cycle this December. Here are some details you might need:
Age: 32
BF: Around 12-15%
Been working out for almost 2 years

I'm planning to do a mix of Test-E and Dbol for my first cycle but I am really concerned about the guy who is my mentor. He did get great results from his cycle but he doesnt seem to be too concerned about PCT (he said he didnt need it, and no mention about AI).

I don't want to be that guy who followed the wrong person on his first cycle so I also try to research as much as I can.

The Test-E Dbol Cycle i found over the net is this (not my creation). I am planning to follow this as much as I can.

Test E 500mg-250mgx2 weeks 1-12
DBol 40mg/day weeks 1-4
DBol 40mg/day weeks 8-10
Arimidex 0.5mg eod/-weeks 2-12
HCG 250iu 2x week- weeks 3-12
Liver 52 pills
Milk Thistle
PCT weeks 14-17
-Nolva 40/40/20/20

The test-E i bought is good for 16 doses so that will make my Test-E cycle into
Test E 500-250mgx2 weeks 1-4
Test E 250mg weeks 5-12

I also have 100 pieces of dbol (blue heart shaped http://dianabolresults.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/danabol-ds.jpg) which I plan to take with the 180 pieces of Milk Thistle capsules to protect my liver.

For the other necessary stuff, I am not sure where I can buy AI (Arimidex), I assume this isnt over the counter like Nolva correct? I also read that i need to do bloodwork before doing the cycle.

TLDR:
Here are also some other questions i have:
1. What's the purpose of the pre-cycle bloodwork?
2. Can I buy any AI over the counter like Arimidex?
3. Would my Test-E cycle be sufficient enough for gains? (only have 500mg on the first 4 weeks and 250g the rest)
4. Would it be completely unnecessary to do a Dbol + Test-E cycle on my first try? Note that I already have them on stock with me
5. How much would be 40mg of Dbol would be? From the photo above it shows 10mg so would that mean 4 pieces of dbol per day?
6. Is taking HCG necessary for the cycle as well?

Sorry if this is too long. Thanks

Greg's picture

Don't start your cycle you'll be wasting your money.

Follow all the advice below. Then wait until you have enough test-e to run 500mg per week for the entire cycle.

Pale's picture

I appreciate the fact that you are asking and seems to be looking at this with a cautious eye. The first thing that really jumps out at me is you only have two years in the gym. Now that is not an automatic exclusion but it does tell me and everyone else that you likely are nowhere near your natural maximums. Once you go down this road it is difficult to turn back.

GRIMEY's picture

Add your height and weight to those stats you posted.

I'll keep this brief.

Test only for first cycle.
Dont run the Dbol, and certainly dont run it twice during the cycle.
Your pct is missing clomid.
IMO hcg is not needed.

Read the link posted below regarding first time users.

Use the blue magnifying glass to search for common topics.

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Green Ranger's picture

The questions you pose have been answered time and time again. I'll give you this link to read, but you need to do more research.

http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/better-basics-for-the-n...

tylerhart's picture

Thank you, ive read a bunch of these threads but a few more would definitely help