posted Fri, 01/25/2013 - 12:04
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1st cycle - confused!
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Hi guys
I wondered if you could help me...
I'm 2, been lifting and training seriously for 6 months and i'm looking to start my first cyce.
I have no idea what I should be taking, how I should be taking it, when or even how much. Oral or injected?
I really need some help here please!
I have researched where to buy my gear online through this site, but I find all the names and measurements for the different substances a bit overwhelming and confusing to say the least!!
Here are my stats I don't know if they will make a difference:
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 240lbs
BF: 20%
Age: 27
Many many thanks to whoever can help I really appreciate it..!
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AnonGood job sayin you dont know shit instead of acting like u do.... any ques hit me up
Thanks pal!
Anonhere you go, bro:
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginner-cycles
the majority, if not all, of your current questions will be covered here.
Thanks mate!! Much appreciated!
Anonyou bet
First your bf% is to high second you have only been lifting seriously for six months? What do you expect miracles in six months. You should forget about a cycle and get your diet dialed in and train for a good solid 2 years before resorting to steroids. In that time do as much research as you can on steroids and decided if its right for you. Steroids can cause serious health problems especially if you don't what you are doing. Take your time get educated, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Hi Logan
Thanks for the reply....I don't think I explained myself fully...I have been gyming and playing rugby since I was 18 so already have a lot of muscle (unfortunately also had a lot of fat too!) but I have been training seriously with a seriously tight diet for 6 months (so i'm not just walking into a gym for the first time expecting huge results)
However, I didn't realise that I should be looking at training seriously for a good two years so thanks for pointing that out...I thought I could jump in sooner than that due to already having above average muscle mass?
Also thanks for the advice on research, i'm going to research the matter for as many weeks/months as it takes until I know it all inside out and feel totally confident that I know how i'm going to proceed. At the minute I wouldn't dare take anything as I know so little!! Hopefully by this time my bodyfat will be down even further to about 15% (hopefully less) as I have stopped drinking alcohol and my diet is pretty tight now! 30lbs down another 16 or so to go
New2roidSounds like you got a good plan, Good luck to you bro
+1 Brother FINALLY someone with a brain in their head. You may find with proper diet and exercise that you will be happy with the results and don't want to try it. Hence you will not have to worry about side affects or illness later in life. If you have any questions on diet or training feel free to pm me. Ill help any way I can. GOOD LUCK!
About time someone mentioned d i e t
New2roidThe measurements you say is confusing, so here is abit of help
Alot of injectables will be addressed as this:
250mg/ml 10ml vial.
This means there is 250mg of steroid per ml and the vial consists of 10ml.
So when injecting if you are injecting 250mg of Test E for example you draw the syringe to the one ml point, as this would be 250mg
Hope this helps abit.
I suggest you put off even consider using steroids until you know everything that you have to do when using gear. Learn aboutside effects, anti estrogens, pct, different cycles, injectables vs orals, and etc, alot to learn.
Thanks for the help buddy, that clears things up a little.
And yeah i'm going to research every area until i'm totally confident in what i'm doing and my bf % should also be down to where I want it by the tie i'm educated
New2roidMost beginners try a simple cycle which includes:
Testosterone enanthate or Cyp
Both of these steroids are injectables and the most favouredfor beginners. Why? Because they are the injectables that need to br used only once a week where as other injectables might need to be used every other day.
So basically a cycle is run with the Testosterone as the BASE if the cycle, then people dress this cycle with other products such as Dbol which is an oral steroid, but i recommend you only use a injectable steroid for your first cycle. Why? So you can easily monitor your bodies reaction to this drug, then add other products in later cycles.
So now you have your basic steroid set you now nees to know how to ise it. So test E (yest enanthate) has a half life of 10 days so you need to inject this atleast as a bare minimum every 10 daya but most peoplw do it every 5 days to keep their testosterone levels norw consistant, which is highly recommended. So inject 250mg of test E every 5 days, this is the MOST effective way of injecting Test E. Test cyp (cypianate) is very similar to Test E so use it as you would Test E. the inly difference in the two is Test Cyp has a slightly longer half life.
You keep doing this for 12 weeks and that would be your first steroid cycle complete, alot of pwople gain around 15lbs in this type of cycle so the gains are great.
So now your steroid cycle is over, it's time to begin the most important part of using safely. This is called PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) this involves using multiple products all aimed at reducing your estrogen levels back to normal and restoring your testosterone back to normal. This PCT will begin after the steroid has cleared feom your body. So because Test E has a half life of 10 days, you will begin using PCT after 20 days.
There are many types of PCT products all aimed at reducing estrogen and products for increasing testosterone. The most popular products include Clomid Nolvadex and Aromasin, these three products are uses for reducing estrogwn and a three are used in combination with each other, commonly in these doses:
Clomid 100mg everyday for week 1 & 2
50mg everyday for week 3 & 4
Nolvadex 20mg everyday fir week 1&2
10mg wveryday for week 3&4
Aromasin 12.5mg everyday for week1&2
6.5mg everyday for week 3&4
So PCT should be run for 4weeks and started 20 days after your last injection of Test E or Cyp.
There are lots of other ateroids and anti estrogens and Peptites etc but these are the basics which i would recommend for a beginner.
I also highly recommend you to so your own research, eroids is a great place to find all thw information you need.
Hope this helped, thanks for reading
very good job bro! good write up +1
New2roidOmg looking over this reply i notice it has a million spelling mistakes, i have fat fingers so type in the wrong letters on my phone. Lol sorry for confusing spelling :(
This is more than helpful mate, thanks for taking the time to go out of your way to help a newbie!!
Head over to the general talk forum and into the newbie lounge and the basics for a new steriod user. Put in some serious research then when you have a better understanding of the basics ask for help on things your having trouble understanding. You will find people on here are much more willing to help if they see you have done your own research. Good luck man and here's your first hint drop bf% then look into a test e only cycle
Good pick up on the bf%.
Thanks for the advice mate, i've got bf % down from about 28-30% in 3 months so looking to get to about 15-16% before starting.
I'm going to spend the night reading up...looks like i have a lot to digest!!