posted Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:54
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Hey guys I'm all set to run a 12wk cycle: Weeks 1-12 Test-E @ 500, Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 200 (joint lube), Weeks 1-5 Anavar @ 50. Im 33 with no history of gyno. First cycle in about 5 years. I normally run Adex .25 oed for the first 3 weeks and then bump it up to .5 oed till week 12 then drop down to .25 for another week or so and start up Clomed for 2 weeks. Labs at week 4. Is week 1 to early for adex? Its been awhile since I ran test so any advise would be great
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RustyhookerYour cycle isnt good buddy. Haven't ran in 5yrs? Gym constant? Blood tested?
Cycles all bad for that long off. Body changed a lot in that time.
Stats? Pct is not up to date....
Hey rusty thanks for the reply. 6'3 275 18%. 33 years old. Was lucky enough to have 4 years of strength and conditioning training in college. Training consistently since college. 6 months back from a wrist tendon tear. Rehab and now stable for 3 months.
No injectables for the last 5 years some orals t-Bol and anavar. Train 4 days a week. Diet healthy but prone to weight gain after 30. Need more cardio. Family history of joint issues ie reason for low dose deca. Normally in the past would run 400 per week over winter. All gear is new
Lab work. I have estrogen levels checked on 4 week. Prone to have fat around chest but zero gyno. Estrogen levels when tested only slightly elevated to normal levels.
Again most of my know age comes from reading. None my buddies now use gear or much less lift, lots of old injuries and being lazy. So any advise would be appreciated.
RustyhookerAnavar as a kicker is useless. Until the test is booming it's working alone. Its job is finishing you off with hard grained look. Var kills appetite and gives strength boost. If you must run deca, check prolactin with your blood test. Have caber incase needed.
Watch those joints. You noted joint issues and muscles grow faster. Would be a ton easier to wait til 15%.
12 week cycle....cut deca week 10. Pct starts week 14.
RustyhookerNot understanding your adex ideas. Test starts kicking about week 4. You prone to gyno? Bloods will tell. Most guys start is needed at .25e3d. Up to .5e3d if needed. More than that and aromasin shoulda been used. .
Pct is clomid and nolva. Please post up proper pct.
Not prone to gyno. But prone to water retention. I find I bloat a lot unless I use .5 over other day starting week 4. I will take adex Mon, wed,fri. I inject Monday night and Thursday night. Monday is 200mg deca and 250mg test e. And on Thursday just 250mg test e. Because of bloat I was trying to run a low dose Deca this time @200mg. I was reading that even at 125mg offers a good joint lubercation. So I should start adex at week 4. And will drop the anavar. I will try dropping adex to .25 mwf see that I'm cutting deca from 400mg to 200mg per week. And last question. Should I over lap the adex and clomid by a week or so? Thanks again rusty.
RustyhookerHave you run bloods in the past to make sure it's not high estradiol?
Vikings vitamin c....1000Mg/day helps with water retention. Just trying to make sure estro doesn't get crashed. Crashed estro starts with dry painful joints.
I'd try the week 4 start unless you're getting high estro symptoms. Not everyone gets gyno. Dudes on here posted estradiol at 600 and only their gains stopped. Normal is 15-42! High estro.....sad, sentimental, super greasy skin. Low estro....dry skin, creaky poppety joints.
I have a great doctor will ask if estradiol is part of my blood work. I don't think so but will for the future.
RustyhookerAnd post up your pct plan....
Over lap adex by one week. Start clomid @100 for 2 weeks and @50 for 3 weeks. Clomid will start 3 days after last injection (last injection will be on a Thursday so will start Monday) Creatine at 5g throughout. Have had good luck keeping same gym schedule but dropping weight and increasing reps. Less cardio. Should I bump the clomid back and should I continue to run adex till week 14??
RustyhookerClomid/nolva is better. The stickies top of ai/pct section are great reads.
2Weeks after last long ester pin
You can overlap adex
Clomid 100...100...50..50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
Of course if your still feeling iffy then go an extra week. I had to go 6 Weeks after tren. It was rugged!
Horney goat weed is great during pct. Lots of google info on med studies. Keeps ya horney and helps recovery per med research.
Looks like you're set! Caber! Dont forget caber bud. On tren i ran .25e3d. But it can be raised if prolactin shows high on blood test.
Thanks rusty greatly appreciate the talk and advise.