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Torem vs Nolva

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Hi guys, anyone did run Toremifene with Clomid instead of Nolva !?
Do you run them at same dosage ratio !? Any hints about Poviron as well !!
My PCT in current cycle which is 12 week 500 Test c with Dbol at 40 as kick start would be 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 Clo/nolva and considering Swapping Nolva for Torem as they are almost same compound but apparently Torem is more effective.
Thx in advance

Deman's picture

Torem is the new and improved nolva.... Hasn't been around long enough to be well know and a lot of older guys refuse to try it... If something ain't broke don't fix it .....

giardap's picture

Yep, sorta like the truth versus 4 week duration with frontloaded tamoxifen PCT cycles

DfromPhilly's picture

I've ran torem instead of nolva in the past and had very good results. I liked it a lot. I wish it were more widely available. It did affect my SHBG more though. The problem is real torem is incredibly hard to find.

giardap's picture

What way did it affect SHBG D?
This is one of the main issues with Nolv, it negatively affects shbg by raising it

DfromPhilly's picture

Even worse than nolva (for me). As in a little higher. But I did feel better. I'll have to dig up the bloodwork when I get into work if I remember. I don't know if it's because we typically take torem at higher doses though. It could have been that and not the compound.

We're talking 40-20mg of nolva vs 120-60 torem. I wonder if that dosage is necessary or how little we could get away with, and it's just not prevelant enough for a lot of people to experiment and find out. I can't wait until we start seeing generics and it's more widely available

giardap's picture

I honestly dont know, but as look at the pharmaco's might help

yeah man I agree 100%

Nikoyama's picture

I did mate and that was an awesome topic but I'm bit confused about the rational behind using two similar compounds (Torem/Nolva) and dropping Clomid !