Thoughts on cycling with arimidex?
I'm starting my first decent cycle this week (I've done three beginner type cycles already) which will be dianabol 40mg/day for 6 weeks, cyp 500mg/week for 10 weeks and 500mg/week deca for 10 weeks + of course PCT which will include Nolva, Clomid and HCG. I've got a tub of 30 X 1mg of Arimidex and I'm just wondering what everyones thoughts are on cycling with it and if anyone has hands on experience with it? I was planning on taking .50mg/day for the first six weeks and then dropping down to .25mg for the last 4 weeks. Broken down this is what I've read on it: Arimidex halts the conversion of testosterone into estrogen, and thus helps to prevent side effects from occurring. In a study conducted on males, examining estrogen suppression in males caused by Arimidex, both .5mg and 1mg doses of were shown to decrease estrogen by around 50%. In both the 1 and .5mg groups in that same study, testosterone levels were raised significantly and both LH and FSH also went up slightly. In my mind, this is reason enough to suggest only using the stuff at a dose of .5mgs/day, as a preventative measure against water retention and gyno. Arimidex is over 80% effective at inhibiting the aromatase enzyme and if you are considering using it for the entire duration of your cycle, then you don’t have to “front load” or even start it before the cycle as some have suggested. Simply start taking it on Day one of the cycle. Since the average cycle seems to fall around 12 weeks, Arimidex is actually a very nice choice for use during the entire duration of the cycle, because it’s got the advantage of not affect cholesterol adversely.
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cdaddy7Correct my man no front load and I would start it the 2nd week of my cycle all the way thru. Lets put it this way, I would never do cycle without an AI period. U can but your not getting most gear bang for your bucks. U got the PCT covered so we r good
zewiX2 the only time i have every started Arimidex before a cycle is when i'm doing tren. I usually give myself .25mg e3d during cycle. So when i do Tren i give myself .25 mg 3 days before i start my cycle.
cdaddy7Great advice zewi
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AnonSticking to just the Adex question I got to say running an AI on cycle for me personally is just as necessary as it is to aspirate before injecting. Yes you can get away with doing both but honestly it is a risk not worth taking. I personally did not do well on adex. I ran .25mg eod and got joint pain and lost my momentum. I know guys who swear by it but the saying "Do what works for you" is so true. I also don't like the risk of raising my cholesterol. I use aromasin now @12.5mg ed and do very good on it.
I would lower the dose of adex from .5mg eod to .25mg eod just to guage exactly what you body does on the low dose. I always start at low doses and will raise it if needed. I try and always go with the lowest possible dose that gives me results. Also start it on day one and discontinue the day of your last pin.
I would have to agree with the test/deca ratio issue. Run test/deca 2:1. Caber is a must for me when I run deca over 4-500mg wk. I also never run deca as long as I do Test. I would extend the Test to 12wks and keep the Deca @ 10wks. Caber will make your Tubesteak very happy. When running a 19nor it is wise to have Caber on hand. Just in case! Oh get some Letro for any gyno issues while you're at it.
Okay thanks for the advice! If I was to do the ''2:1'' ratio that would mean I would have to do 1000mg of cyp a week if I wanted to keep to the 500mg of deca. Is that not a little excessive for my fourth course 1000mg of cyp or is that pretty okay? Will definitely stop the deca on the 10th week and continue the cyp until the 12, definitely sounds like the wise thing to do! I'm from the U.K and was just looking at getting some cabergoline as you recommended but it doesn't seem that available around here. Any sources you can recommend me?
Dianabol 40mg ED for a total of six weeks
Cyp 500mg EW for 10 weeks
Deca 500mg EW for 10 weeks
PCT
Should I run a higher test/deca ratio to avoid deca dick? I've run equal test to deca before and I've been okay, well some days better than other anyway lol
You're not keeping the test higher than deca. Wheres caber?? Rewrite it so we can read it easy. List stats please
To be honest I'd never heard of caber. Just loosely had a few posts on it and it seems to be a fairly new product. Is it essential? It seems the majority of people recommend it on tren cycles.
Caber is old product to lower prolactin. Tren is a 19nor as well. Read up to double check....be safe. Also, you've run equally with test/deca before with no leaky nipples or deca Dick? What milligams?
First cycle was just test but second cycle was sus 250 and deca. I did 2mg of each every week and no nipple dramas and most mornings I'd wake up harder than a 8th grader lol that's why I hadn't really considered changing the ratio but it's definitely something I'll consider and look further into. I appreciate the knowledge because I'm quite new to this and obviously still have a lot to learn.
Some folks have different tolerances. High five! Get caber and research it prior to starting. Juuust incase. Know the signs and doses. Arimidex is strong stuff. Take a look in forums so youre familiar with estro levels. Most folks are using .25 eod unless they're having estro issues. You need some estro. Too lil causes other problems. Dbol will boost your strength but its also harsh to the liver. Milk thistle or the Liv tabs to help. If eyes get yellowed...you're stressing it. Don't go beyond 6wks though. Dbol gives the watery gains so I'm seeing bulker cycle. Keep diet in check....low salt levels so bloating isn't as bad. Stop deca two Weeks prior to test or you'll not get boner. Your pct is to get balls working again. Wouldnt want to also combat prolactin.
Okay cool thanks for the advice! I'll run the test for 12 weeks and stop the deca on the 10th then. As well I've got liv52 and some milk thistle that I intend on using and will be drinking a good 3+ litres of water absolute minimum a day to try keep my liver functioning cause I know orals are pretty devastating on it. Didn't know about the salt intake so that's definitely helpful! Don't want that bloated look at all!
No1You should stop the Deca 2 weeks before you stop the test
Really? Is that because the deca has a longer life?
Research....deca dick