Tamoxifen on cycle?
I need some help. After doing some research and questioning why other people are having a much better time on the same gear than I am (barely feel it at all, and barely any gains with a high/healthy calorie intake) I've come to the conclusion that I have high estro and it's restricting my gains and making me lethargic despite my last cycle feeling amazing the whole time. I've never used an ai or had one but I have tamoxifen on hand for my pct (it's about 6 months old if that matters and it's been in my hot attic). So being that an ai wouldn't help me anyways if I already have high estro would the tamoxifen help for now to restrict what's in my body until I can get some arimadex and if so what should I start with? And is it even safe despite its age and being stored in hot temp? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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cdaddy7Plz follow link and read compliments of detriotnate:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/arimidex-arom...
That's exactly what I've read and thanks by the way but what I have also read is ai is best for prevention of estro so if it is already there you are best to use tamoxifen (nolva) I am now hearing this isn't true so I suppose I read it wrong
cdaddy7What a minute, I'm missing something here. Do u have blood work from a lab that a Dr diagnosed u with high estro?
No but I've self diagnosed myself due to multiple symptoms dry skin, dry joints, and no libido when no one else is experiencing this on the same gear I'm on.
cdaddy7K it bind to the receptor that in turn blocks the enzyme that causes the production/ conversion of estrogen therefore lowering the levels in layman's terms so to speak
Gotcha well regardless I'll be good n a few days but until then I'm gonna nolva it up
What I mean is an ai stops the conversion of test into estro so if ts already there then how can it help? This is why I'm confused lol
I'm pretty positive I read a post a couple weeks ago explaining all the AI's and SERMS. AI's; arimidex, aromasin, letrozol, those will not only block the estrogen, but lower, diminish, decrease existing estrogen levels. SERMS; nolvadex, clomid, they will block the estrogen from being converted and attached to the receptors. They all aid in increasing you naturally test levels as well. If I am wrong about any of this, anyone, please correct me.
cdaddy7Shelf life on pills are 2+ yrs and don't expire with the dates. That's an fda regulation. Yes u could use them bc at this point something is better than nothing. U need to do some better planning on ur next cycle or u will run into the same issues. That's y we stress to have everything In order including ur safety back up for situations just like urs so ur gains and experience on gear is optimal and to prevent situations like this from occurring.
Yeah and I def deserve that I've never used an ai on this or previous cycle so I assumed I would be strait but def learned my lesson. What's a good dose to start today w the tamoxifen until my ai gets here and how long to run it
cdaddy7I would take 40mg in a split dose (20 in am and 20 pm) for three days and if symptoms relieve drop it to 20mg a day split until your AI arrives
Ok thank you
cdaddy7Ai are estro killers so u r wrong they WILL reduce the high estro and run it thru the whole cyle. Thats what they do is smash estro. U really need to fully do your research before even considering another cycle soon so u dont make the same mistake again. Follow uncle zewi's recipe belowVVVV
I understand what you're saying.......my research shows otherwise which is why I have tamoxifen instead. I already said I'm wrong so youu only need to tell me to research better one time. Thanks ;)
zewiyou need Arimidex or aromasin these are AI"s for on cycle
Tamoxifen(Nova) and Clomid are serms they are for PCT..
So you need Arimidex at .5mg EOD or ED or aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD or ED
You can adjust them as needed.
I have been using Tamoxifen for on cycle and PCT. Why are Anastrozole and Aromasin better on cycle AI's?
I know that, however an ai won't help me if I already have high estro in my body and I'm ordering an ai but I'm talking about a quick way to start fixing this
That is not at all true