PCT / Sperm Count
Hello all. Last month I went to get a sperm analysis done and although not surprising, but still upsetting, the test came back as zero. I have been on a blast/cruise for the past 26 months as I bodybuild and powerlift. I was seeing tons of early success in both sports so extended my cycle way longer than I should have. Sponsors kept pressuring me to compete and like an idiot I did. Once I was off I ran a pct of hcg (2weeks) & clomid/nolva for additional 30 days - this obviously did not do the trick. I have been off now for a total of 3 months.
My wife and I would like to start a family very soon. Starting last week I have started a new protocol to raise my sperm count...
3xs a week 1000iu HCG
3xs a week 75iu HMG
ED 50mgs Clomid
ED Arimidex
Would love to hear some input or similar situations. Thanks.
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Here is my story....
Had the same problem after two 16 week Tren/prop cycle in one year last year.. sperm was as clear as water.... I did normal PCT then continued to take 50mg pharma clomid (25 in the am/25 mg in the pm) daily and it took about 10 months and three sperm analysis test for my sperm to regain it's potency..... We are still actively trying so I'm off juice for almost 13 months now and I still take the clomid everyday but my boys are swimming... The day after we get a positive pregnancy test I'm breaking out the Sust & Primo to celebrate.
Drop the HCG.. It'lll suppress your natty test/sperm production... And give your body time to recoup.. Fight the temptation to jump back on until you know if you can recover, how long it take and if can get your wife prego.... GOOD LUCK BROHAM.
Thanks so much for the advice. When I cut the HCG, I should be good to keep the HMG as it activates both LH/FSH right? Have been reading that HMG is great in restoring FSH. Been on clomid now for 2weeks, I figured at the month mark I'll get some bloodwork done and see where I'm at.
Thought this was weird, maybe you can explain. I took an SA while on a long cycle (took 250iu hcg 2xweek) and had 22million live sperm. Now that I'm off I have zero. Does this make any sense? Only thing I can think of is I must be well below the normal test range right now, while I obviously wasn't during cycle.
Good luck to you as well!
HMG is synthetic FSH and LH so no it'll be suppressive all the same unless you're relying on it to do the work for you the entire time. Also for long term clomid therapy 25mg is recommended as there are problems long term at 50. I had a friend in a similar situation at one point and I can find the studies later if you'd like but I would keep it to 25.
A possible explanation for your SA results is that testosterone is required for sperm to be made/mature. So your levels may be low enough that you don't have enough test to properly make sperm, however over the Internet everything is just a guess.
Second this. 25mg of clomid every day for a year.
You could use triptorelin
You may want to give this a shot, all hcg and hmg is doing to suppressing your natural production, and it may or may not be helping increase sperm count. https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/dsip-delta-s...
x2 they just "mimic"