posted Tue, 06/12/2012 - 03:35
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Natural PCT?
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Hi, I'm about to start a first Anavar cycle 40mg/day for 6 weeks mostly for strength gains, to build lean muscle and to drop a few pounds.
I train for mixed martial arts 6 days a week, I'm 34, weigh 176 lbs, 5'10''. Is there any natural PCT I could use? By natural I mean herbs or roots to "repair" my liver.
I'm new to this site so maybe it's a stupid question.
Thanks for your help guys.
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ImTestyThis is a terrible idea, an oral only is terrible for you and anavar can and will shut down ur hpta. I know what ur saying it a low dose for a short time, but ur an mma fighter if ur Hpta gets shut down ur gonns be tired as fuck all the time and not a very effective fighter.. Test should be the base to ANY cycle...take a look at this post http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/i-have-a-problem-...
Thanks man, I understand why it's a bad idea. A guy tells that beginners want to start an oral only cycle because thay are scarred of needles, that's true, I'm not a pussy but I'm really scared of injections.
I'll try to man up and do more research before doing stupid things...
ImTestyNot ready for needles not ready for AAS
The idea of PCT is to re-enable your HTPA system and get your nuts running again, not a simple liver support.
Ok thanks, which product should I use?
Milk Thistle to support liver, cheap as hell at grocery store in the herbs section. Now if you coming out of a cycle which compounds did you run my man? If you planing on running an "oral cycle only" for get about that idea my man and read more on this forums. You asking for failure with that type of cycle. If you got any questions go to my friend list and ask Viking or Tread-M if you want more accurate advice from PROS
thnaks a lot man, I appreciate the advice
No prob bruh, we all are here to help eachother and avoid failure. A Test E for 12 weeks cycle is what i suggest you followed by a proper PCT. But then again if you have any more questions read more things on forums or ask the PROS, they know what they talking about and they would help you to achieve your goals & for FREE lol
Ok , I'm gonna think about it. What dosage would u recommend?
I'm gonna throw in the standard. Test E 250. 500/mg a week split in 2 doses(axample Sun-Wed) for 12 weeks then start PCT 2 weeks after last Test E Injection. Try run a long esther since this is your first cycle. (This cycle is intended for gaining muscle mass)
I didn't start the cycle yet, still waiting for my gear. I'll just take some anavar nothing more.
AnonMMASEB I can't tell you enough not to run an oral only cycle. Not smart,healthy or very permanent. Any gains will fade away fast due to lack of Natty Test in ur body.
Rather than blast you on your way of thinking I want to understand why it is you want an oral only cyle to begin with. Lets start with the fact that all oral cycle creates a suppression of endogenous Testosterone. Some faster than others. Anavar is relatively mild but will shut you down all the same. I hear a lot of fighters talk of using anavar or halo because it helps keep them lean and does not produce much weight gains.
While there is some truth to that I have to disagree with the premise that a compound will dictate the type of gains. I know this from personal experience. When I first started using AAS I was injured pretty bad and got diagnosed with LowT. I was not in the condition to lift at all so what I could do was run. All I did was run. I started running everyday and soon was getting very good at it. I got to the point where I was running 10k M-W-F. My muscles at that point started becoming elongated and since my training dictated what the Test was doing I soon was a very very lean and almost stopped getting tired completely. I eventually was able to lift again and soon switched my training and diet to gaining strength and mass. Training/Diet dictates body composition not compounds.
What makes you want to do an all oral cycle man?
Well, a friend of mine who's a pro fighter told me that it was the best way to gain strength and build muscle without major health risks. I guess it's a lack of education, that's why I'm open to any suggestion from you guys who are more educated and master the subject.