posted Fri, 02/12/2016 - 00:59
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So I've been reading a lot of studies online and came across this one doc says hcg is to be taken during a cycle not after.. And it made sense. That I only take it when my balls shrink during a cycle.. And just do clomid and nolvadex post cycle .. Any thoughts? Advice is it stupid cuzz it made sense to me ..
Any feed back would be great
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I got a similar question. What dosage is good to start at when starting HCG mid-cycle?
A lot of people says 250-500iu per week. But I've read that if you've been on Test for a while, you better up the dosages in the beginning to shock the system. It might be bro science, I honestly don't know. Some advocate starting at 1000-2000iu for the first week and then lowering to 500iu per week. What works best for you guys?
I'm 3 months into a 5 month Test E cycle. Thanks.
BendTheBarbellI seem to not be able to find the study anymore but I came across something shortly after I asked a similar question. Like if u do a heavy cycle and only run hcg the last 4 weeks there was some sort of algorithm that determined how high ur first dose should b. I will keep searching but my first cycle I ran hcg only 250iu twice a week during the last 4 weeks including the two weeks I waited the esters to clear and my balls perked up nicely no issues but it was also a very mild cycle. 500Mg test ew. It's wiser to run hcg throughout especially on a heavy/long cycle because the whole idea is to prevent testicular atrophy and not let ur body struggle as hard to get them full again. Maybe someone else will chime in on that dosing protocol for waiting for the last few weeks. But unless it nuts have shrunken to the size of jelly beans and u r just now starting to see them shrink 500 iu ur first shot may help cause more is not always better. Plus I read on a seperate article ur body will only benefit from so much hcg at one time anyway.
Sorry to get in on your topic but also very interested. And also would like to know how people are dosing this for pct ? Good post!
monstrositiewish there was an easy way to track ur levels at home like a diabetic.. Just prick and check everyday then u could adjust accordingly.. I'm interested to try a better way.. I'm a lot more focused on my cycles now I'm 35 when I was 20 bam 1gram test and everything I could shoot then hardly do pct and shrink go right back into it.. Im trying ironman or arl anyone have luck with their hcg?
Only pharma for PCT, AI and HCG for me bro. You're depending on it and so are your overall results, just my opinion not saying theirs are garbage, its just the way I choose and its not that much more costly from the right supplier.
I myself have studied looking into running HCG the entire cycle to get the best of both exogenous and indigenous testosterone. A physique coach told me the best results he'd seen was when these two were coupled together that there's only so much the body will take of the ex, but it recognizes its own production and the uptake is very good. Take that for what its worth but not many people say this is optimal so its up to the user. I believe its having the best of both worlds but there is still a high chance of gyno. Its a greater degree of test in your body whether synthetic or a false LH signal making you produce it will aromatize at high levels to estrogen if not kept in check. I personally prefer armidex like many others for the anti aromatization and its not as strong as letro with the sides either. Essentially if you've have had experience with the your shutdown and know how strong it may hit you, also depending your age, you may want to ensure your test production remains constant. In the long run you can have better gains at lower doses of outside test coupled with doses of HCG. I would defiantly make sure you have legit HCG though or your pissing in the wind. I'm sure others can weigh in on this who've tried it and may say its not necessary that you should just allow yourself to shutdown completely but to me when you effect the endocrine system you can't be only effecting one part or one aspect, to get the point yes run HCG while your on, some say at the last few weeks to get even better gains is a popular method and then carry it on into PCT, ( before clomid of course) I'm no expert just sharing what I've gleaned.
monstrositieIt sounded legit to me so I'm gonna monitor my balls to put it roughly and as they slow production I will give it a go.. See how my body reacts and I'll post results..
But thanks for posting i appreciate it!
Don't know how much you plan on taking but my cycle looks like 600-700 mg of test e and 300-500 iu of HCG. I'm giving it a range because I don't have it exact but I know I've never been prone to gyno, I've ran a gram of test e with 350 mg of prop and nothing got crazy except sweating my ass off and crazy strength, I had letro too while taking this much. Only downfall was the depression I had when I came off. My dad had just died suddenly without warning and I wasn't taking enough HCG to restart. Wouldn't wish how I felt during that PCT on anyone.
bigmurphI run mine at 250iu for the last 8 wks of my cycle right up to pct then start pct protocol. It has worked well for me.
I have done this twice now and my pct goes much smoother.
You have to be careful because it will cause your estro to rise.
Hey bru, do you do 250iu once a week?
bigmurph250iu -500
I only use 250iu -500iu a wk some use 250iu twice a week
Curious here as well... I was told the same thing, still researching though. Will be good to get feedback from advanced users...