posted Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:38
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OK been on gear for last 3 months and end of july will end my 4th month and the end of my gear
in the end.. I have test Prop and tren acetate -- last 6 weeks off cycle
Here's what I currently have -- looking for the proper way
1. 10,000 hcg
2. 90 nolvadex tabs (20 mg each)
3. 30 clomid - 50mg each
From what I have read I want to start with my hcg probably the last 3 weeks of cycle.. so a total of 4 weeks at 2500 week
then 1 week after my last shot of test prop start the Nolvadex and clomid
any good feedback is appreciated... I just recenlty saw some post on side effects of clomid? (is is that common?)
thanks
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Ideally hcg should be used from the very start of the cycle until 3 days prior to PCT. You should begin using hcg today, at a dose of 250 IU twice a week up to 3 days before PCT.
Begin your nolva and clomid PCT 3 days after your last pin. The dosages should resemble:
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
Note: Tren can some researches recovery to be more difficult than others. You may want to add an additional 2 weeks of nolva (6 in total) at 20 mg/day.
Hi numbere
I saw your other posts youv'e made and agreed with them as far.
My question to you is, aside from the fact hes running tren, why should he run an additional two weeks of Nolva and NOT clomid? They are both SERMS and work in similar fashions. Why choose to just run only the nolva for the two weeks?
Thanks, welcome to the site.
Thank you for the warm welcome!
In all likelihood OP won't need 6 weeks of nolva. One should use clomid for 4 weeks and nolva for 6 when running a long cycle or when using decca for 12-14 weeks.
Nolva and clomid work in synergy together and achieve the same outcome, but through different mechanisms. Nolva increases the rate at which LH is produced and clomid increases the amount of LH produced. Nolva also puts clomid into "competition" mode. This forces the two SERMs to compete for binding sites.
Synergistic effect aside using both together for 6 weeks is excessive, and nolva is the stronger SERM of the two. I have a lot of experience advising PCTs and in my experience 4 weeks of clomid is sufficient. This is especially true if hcg is used on cycle to preserve natural test production. The compounds we use for research were initially developed for treating cancer in women. The less one needs to take the better.
We need to remember that this is all very individualistic and likely impossible to quantify. Based history and how drugs interact with the majority we can make better judgement calls of recovery. Some recover much faster from long harsh cycles than others. Basically, you can assume that you'll be OK or you can take extra measures to better your chance of recovery.
OP I would like to add that you should have blood work in 6-8 weeks to check T,TT,LH and FSH.
how would this look:
Clomid 100mg Days 1-10 20 tabs
50 mg Days 11-20 10 tbs
Nolv 100 mg Day 1 5 tabs
60mg days 2-11 30 tabs
40mg days 12-22 20 tabs
That PCT is overkill. Stick to the PCT as laid out below. Each number represents the dosage in milligrams for that week.
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
or
nolva
day 1-7 40 mg/day
day 8-28 20 mg/day
clomid
day 1-7 100 mg/day
day 8-28 50 mg/day
*If you have any unwanted sides from 100 mg/day clomid then bump it down to 75 mg/day for the remainder of the first week.
cool, thank you
what sides can i expect? or am I looking for -- that wil cause me to need to drop the dose down?
Some experience severe emotional swings or ocular side effects. Such as blurred vision. These side effects are usually rare at doses of 100 mg and under.
thank you!
nothing?
hcg last 4 weeks of cycle
then take week off of everything 100%
then start Nolvadex and clomid correct?
just want proper dose and is there an issue with taking to much vs to little
?