posted Mon, 09/17/2012 - 12:03
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Do I need these if i'm on 250 test c /week
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I'm only doing 250 test c a week should I use antiestrogens or clomid for such a low dose?
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cdaddy7Just so know why Nolva/Clomid PCT:
Clomid and Nolva actions
Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue.
impressive man
For years I thought they did the same thing, then I found this site.
I have never used clomi, only used nolva and I recover really fast but that could be because I only do test.
I am with you on every note, this forum rocks and great solid advice.
I'm 33 6 foot and 189 pounds. I havent used and gear since my early 20s i was doing 600-800mgs test e a week for 12 weeks with d-bol cant remember exact dose of that and I took clomid the whole time. I found my passion in jiujitsu and i feel age catching up with me and i plan to compete in november.
rock on bro,i hope you kick his glutius maximus
By weight class? Or belt? Problem with simply running low dose is your natty levels shut off. So your goal of light boost turned off the nutty buddies.
How long on low dose?
he can do prop
I always compete at 175-200 pounds brown belt so I have to compete with all the higher belts. I havent even started taking test yet was planning on doing 250mgs a week of kalpa test c. but yes I'm really concerned the nutty buddies will get turned off
hgh would be the safest
Most likely at 250/wk the estro would be low but having an ai on hand will be smart. Also, being so low you'd likely be able to run the ai (aromasin) with clomid for pct. Unorthodox but the clomid will get the nutties up after and aromasin blocks estro very well while boosting igf.. Main problem is it's been quite some time since you ran a cycle or like zewi posted the other day a cutter type cycle. Not meaning to lise fat necessarily but to trade muscle for fat and hold the weight class easily. If you stick with the 250...aromasin at 6.50 Ed when estro shows right thru clomid pct Weeks 14-18 @ 100...100...50...50
Better option if you remember pinning and rotation
1-8 prop 100eod
2-8 var 60/day split am/pm
Aromasin as needed if/when estro hits
Pct two days after last shot of prop
Clomid 100....100...50...50
Nolva....40...40...20...20
Diet clean clean and gym is key. If both are on you should stay bout same weight but tight/solid. Food controls gains
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Good stuff fast. much appreciated. I'm ordering some right now, better to be safe then have to worry about it. I have other things to worry about.
After long time off cycle...receptors are clean. So growth on low doses (given we've aged) works. You will feel the 25year old kick. Pinning prop can be a lil bit of pain in shoulders...legs etc but long run closer to tight hard body. Typically a person off for a long time....id only say do the typical first run cycle of test at 500/wk for 12 Weeks BUT your goal is very specific. Keep us updated.....post any concerns. Pins are inexpensive. 25 x 1 works well for delts/quads. Slower to inject which causes less pip(post inject pain).
What!?!
Like Fast said below, stats and cycle history...
trt is doin a small amount of test.so your soupbone will stiffin up for ya.put more of it in your body every week to give that special lady in your life something to play with when she's bored.
Yes as of right now I am planning on going on trt. if i like the results of course. I didnt order any anti-estrogens but I definetly will next time. I was just concerned because the clinic i talked to didnt offer any but reading posts i see they are very important
Please let us know your stats and prior cycle experience.
mr127superdeeyou absolutely need to have an anti estro available. if you dont show signs of high estro dont take it and save it for a harsher cycle. novadex 40/20/20/20 during pct should be enough for a small cycle like this if its your first dont go longer than 12 weeks ten weeks being a better idea. yes i would still run clomid during pct at 100/100/50/50
mr127superdeei did not take anti estro on my first cycle i did have a bloated look but i feel like it was a good decision to just experience test at a low dose on its own
I dont even know what trt is
Are you running trt?
Either way, 250mg/wk is a low dose and probably won't create an estrogen problem but having an ai on hand just in case is a good idea. If you are going on trt, you won't need cloud bc you aren't going to come off the test. If you are running a cycle you need to run a proper pct with coming and Nolvadex.
Trt is testosterone replacement therapy?..f'n autocorrect. That should be clomid and Nolvadex above
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