posted Tue, 03/12/2013 - 03:24
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test p and pip
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I recently began a cycle with test p, this was my first time using the compound. I had previous experience with test c and e, and had little discomfort or pain. However after two weeks I had to stop my cycle because of the pip swelling and hardening abscess from injection sites. I used 26 gauge 1 in needles injecting every other day rotating four places on my glutes and thighs. If anyone has any advice on test p please feel free to share as I'd be extremely grateful
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if your getting PIP that bad doubt anything is gonna fix it except diluting it. You can try all the secrets that people mention but if its bad gear its still gonna be bad gear.
I'm injecting prop everyday with a 29g 1/2" needle and I'm experiencing minimal PIP... Maybe your source has questionable gear but mine goes in like a hot knife through butter. Sorry to hear you had to cut your cycle short because of this!
johnohey mate, you should use a 23 gauge needle at 1 and a quarter, i had the same issue with the 26 gauge 1 inch, then when i changed to that size i had no problems, warming it up may help, i find that if you rally take your time putting it in it stops the pip, when you pull out, wipe the injection site with an alcohol swab then use a few tissues and really rub/massage the area in opposite directions,then swab again and place a bandaid over it and move that bodypart around a bit. if you still get a little bit of pain you could take an anti inflamatory.cheers
Thanks everyone for advice. I will definitely try these in future. Right now my plan is to take a few weeks off then jump on cycle again.
Have a look at these links to my step-by-step injection guides which i use to help minimalise PIP. Remember PIP is the result of both your injection technique and also your gear.
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Quads
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Glutes
Injection Preparation
As I do with all of my injections, my first step is to always warm up the vials of AAS I will be using. To do this, I first ran the hot water tap until the heat is above room temperature and proceed to fill up a bowl with the hot water to approximately 3 centimeters in depth. The AAS vial will then placed in this bowl for 10 minutes. Alternatively you can use a hairdryer
Once the vials have warmed up, I then dry them with a towel (and flip of the cap if the vial is new/unused). Next, take an alcohol wipe (1 for each vial) and wipe the tops to remove and bacteria or any other dirt which can cause an infection. Then, remove the syringe and the 21g needle from their packaging and attach together (some screw together, others need to be pushed together). Then inject the amount of air into the syringe to equal the amount of liquid you will be withdrawing from the vial to make sure the pressure within the vial is safe (if you are drawing out 1ml of AAS from the vial, then inject 1ml into the vial - this will also make drawing the liquid AAS compound a lot easier). Place the cap on the 21g needle and un-package the 25g and attach to the syringe.
Post-Injection Aids
Shower - Once you have injected, take a shower and massage the area to disperse the liquid for faster absorbtion and minimal PIP.
Heat Pad - Apply a heat pad to disperse the liquid.
A lot of it these days has to do with the solvents. If your source uses things like EO, guaicol or high BA concentrations ,pip can be bad. But test prop itself if notorious for pip. It's bearable to me. IMO, a small sacrifice. A little pain isn't going to kill you. If it is swollen , red, hot and causing lymph nodes around the area to enlarge, then you have an infection. That's a different story. I'll give an example. I am allergic to guaicol. I react horribly to it. But love EO. No problems. Most ppl can't handle EO for some reason. Who knows, but yes test prop is a known pip culprit. I guess I'm just used to it.
The usual protocol, heat the oil etc. I'd try and incorporate another couple of injection sites when you're eod pinning, have you tried delts? That would give you six sites, so only rehitting the same area every 12 days.
Prop can give people some grief, especially first time around. In most the situation improves with time and use.
X2 on heating the oil. Hair dryer is best. I forgot to mention that. It helps A TON!
I blew the motor up on my wifes hairdryer heating oil years ago, she wasn't a happy bunny lol! "What were you doing with my hairdryer anyway......." Took some explaining.
I bought my own and my wife thought i was buying it for a side chic. Lol. I've been using a mini space heater. Just sit the gear in front of it (maybe 2' away) for a half hour prior to pinning. Works great