+ 39 Aromasin, you are not doing it right at all
I have read post after post of people taking aromasin every other day or every 3 days and so very few take it every day.
Aromasin needs to be taken every day twice a day for 7 days for it to start working by causing your blood serum to be saturated. Aromasin MUST BE DIALED IN BY BLOODS DRAWN AFTER 7 DAYS then afterwards you need to draw blood again after adjusting the dose BUT YOU STILL TAKE IT EVERY DAY. Sorry for the caps but no one seems to read anymore and rely on Broscience and Parroting. Read this article here on the mean effect of taking aromasin every day as well as the dosing followup. Also Peak estrodiol suppression occurred right around 12 hours, so that means Estrogen will begin to climb after 12 hours, so you need to take it 2 times a day or all you are doing is keeping your E2 at the exact same levels maybe even higher.
And I wonder why people say they take aromasin eod and it doesn't work for them......because you are not doing it right. This is why Aromasin is so expensive in a cycle because of the amounts you have to take. 25mg every day in men not on cycle kept their E2 levels ~normal range~. Please stop basing your research on looking up other aas forums but look at actual medical data. I have looked at all the forums and every one of them has different opinions or parrots. Honestly your only friend is drawing bloods so you can dial yourself in and find YOUR sweet spot.
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031279
Please also read this article.
http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v72/n4/abs/bjc1995451a.html
And this one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12404296?dopt=Abstract
I can get more all day long but the general consensus is and always will be:
Bloods are a MUST for any cycle for judging both test levels and E2 levels as well as all other factors. If you plan on using ANY AI you HAVE to have bloods drawn within 7-10 days of initial dosing so you can get your baseline and then adjust from there. Do you want to know why you are doing everything right as far as diet and training yet you are not growing or getting stronger? Blame yourself for not getting bloods drawn and adjusting your medications you are on. I am sure there will be people that will post here saying science or myself is wrong and I am prepared for it, but back up your claims with proof. Its all about being safe and caring for our bodies because you only have one and you cant go trade it in or buy a new one, once you fuck it up you are done. You can feel like a million dollars but your insides are suffering.
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I think some of the confusion comes from the half life being around 24h in women but much shorter in men, around 9 hours I believe, but if you go for the lazy "research" option and google aromasin half life, the top result is a study on women and states the half life as "about 24 hours", and seems to be the point where most people think they have found their answer and move on, then keep regurgitating their "knowledge" on forums, where more lazy people rely on this so called research!
Testrogen_PropC...How does that work? You sure the half life is 24 hrs in women and 9 hrs in a male? That sounds like it could be BS to me.
Here's a post that has links to studies,
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-men...
Testrogen_PropC...Very interesting. I can't help but be kind of suspicious of the testing considering 25mg both lowered E2 and raised testosterone further than 50mg did in the males. But still some interesting info nonetheless. I think I'd want to see some more data on it before I 100 percent believe it tho lol.
Thanks for the link bro! +1 karma for you.
It means less saturation and less chemicals fighting for receptors and the free ones were able to replenish.
Blood work is the key to all of this. When taking either ai bloodwork is the only true way to dial it in. Now with that being said there is also the "do I feel good" factor. This part is a little more tricky especially when stacking compounds. Example mast will act as an ai for some and even though we may feel or e2 is correct it may be creeping up. Tren on the other hand can raise e2 readings off the charts so you pretty much have to go by feeling. Also with 19 nors prolactin can cause trouble of getting that feeling just right even though labs come in range. Hence why test only for 1st time users is pushed so strongly.
Thumbs up!! I've ran it ed and always gotten the best results, especially with BW. Eod works, but the levels are not stable.
muchas gracias..
Great stuff IM! +2. Appreciate you posting up this stuff. Way too much confusion about such an important part of aas use. Far too many folks just read or hear a dose and take it as gospel, as opposed to seeing if that's actually valid.
Wow this is awesome! My noob mind is blown, thanks Irish
RustyhookerI run it ed when needed. Haven't had to do the 6.25 split yet as I keep my test 750 or lower. Maybe I'll try a high test run someday and see how it effects my e2.
I actually prefer Adex over Asin. Just seems to keep me more stable and I feel better on and only need to take a dose E3D. Maybe if I dosed my Asin 2x/d instead of 1x I wouldn't feel like I am going up and down so much and it would be a smoother ride. I am going to try it and see what happens. As far as these people dosing EOD or E3D with Asin, I just don't get it.
Its the same reason we have to make post after post of the proper way of doing things, people research the wrong information. If we were to do a google search you would see all the top hits coming from aas forums and all the real medical or scientific are buried. You literally have to search with the medical terms to find truth over the fiction.
yup, sad truth. There is so much garbage online that it can get really confusing for a total newb and unfortunately many of them lack the patience to go beyond the first 3-4 links and research the substance fully before they start injecting/swallowing.
No doubt, I just got tired of seeing so many conflicting answers and they dont back it up with any proof or bloods. Then you get the real medical data with real dosing AND technical data and your mind gets blown.
I still dont understand why some people are saying aromasin are very bad for the cycle and prefer to not use it... i only used arimidex but kind a lost in this one...have read so many articles but would like to get some bro advice please
Mainly because it needs to be monitored more frequently since it kills estrogen versus suppress. Bloods are a must using it and skipping even one dose could cause issues.
I would interested in hearing the reasons why they claim it wouldn't be good. personally, I think it's far superior, for two reasons. aromasin permanently binds, that why it's sometimes referred to as a suicide inhibitor. this will not allow estrogen rebound which can happen with adex. second reason is adex causes a decline in cognitive function leaving the person feeling foggy headed and this hugely effects me.
thanks.
Precisely why the subjects bloods showed no adverse effects or any problems with their lipids. Its main job is done very well and can almost be compared with Letrozole minus the fact that Letro will destroy 99.99% of estradiol versus Aromasin which will vary person to person and how long the subject stays on it for. So many choices out there to use but the superior one is less to no sides as well as doing exactly what its made to do.
BTW thanks for sharing the research study links
Very good post