advice with PCT please
Hello
I was wondering if anyone could give some advice, im planning my pct atm and after doing some research im still doubting about a few details as pct is more important then the cycle imo .
Currently i'm on a Deca 250mg/w and Testo E 500mg /w and using proviron as aromatizer . Also used Dbol as kickstarter from week 1 to 4 .
36 year's old
211 pound/96kg
First of all the combination of clomid and nolvadex as the opinions on both vary allot . Do i need both ? if not wich will be more effective ?
Now the most important issue for me is HGH . I read HGH is very good to use on off cycle or pct so im pretty sure on using it . Now ive read that the fragments work very well if not better and could save me alot of money on long term ?
What is your opinion on this ? HGH only ? fragments only ? or a combination of both ?
Also if the fragment peptides would be the better option wich ones should i combine ?
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I agree with most of the comments below about HGH and Fragments not being related to your issue. You should research PCT and see how those in the know do it. I am a big fan of HCG, as it can make the transition into PCT much easier and less stressful!
HGH, peps, forget about them. Not sure why you are focusing your attention on them now. You have bigger issues to deal with since running one of the most suppressive compounds. Your frag and GH aren't going to help you recover so focus on what will. With a 19nor you will likely need an extended PCTwith clomid/nolva and probably HCG. Research your PCT compounds and come up with something that we can look at.
Your post here says you're 36 years old, but your profile says you're 30. Get consistent with us so we can better tailor our advice to you, please. (It also helps other men who find themselves in the same boat you're in.)
Regarding HGH and peptides, the answer is always: IT DEPENDS.
It depends on your goals and what you're willing to do to achieve them. You've been here three days (as I type this response) and I have no clue what your goals are. Wanna be stronger? Faster? More lean? Physique? Athletics? Without this info, we can't help you, nor can your post help anyone else in your situation.
We're here to help. Have an open mind and don't be defensive. The vets here have seen people fuck themselves up terribly. Don't make avoidable mistakes, please. Your health is important, and the people that love you and depend on you need you to have the best health you can get. Don't fuck them over either.
Keep us posted or update us and we're happy to help.
who is taking my karma ? atleast give a reason why your taking it you pussy.
or keep hiding behind your keyboard, I thought we were past all this ?
jayisk+1 for your reply..,lol
He's been dealt with. You got your 2 back plus one
eroids is lucky to have you greg, '' no homo''
you go above and beyond for this place, with out a doubt.
What in the actual fuck bro?! I understand coming at us with your poorly ass planned cycle and being oblivious about PCT. I’m fucking floored your ass is asking about HGH and fragments in the same post!
Now, I’ll help you with your PCT cause you fucked up. When are you stopping or have you?
I don’t anger post often, but this is retarded.
maybe consider next cycle if your running a 19nor, test and dbol, an actual A.I. and caber just in case.
Proviron is an excellent compound that should be ran if possible with every cycle, but you should not rely souly on it as an A.i.
HGH is expensive and unreliable to say the least when it comes to quality. Long term its gonna eat you up financially trying to run it off cycle, I suggest if your going to run hgh do it on cycle for at least a 6 month run to get full benefits .
nolva and clomid yes, how much and how long depends on you.
Exactly, first cycle was way too much. He is probably bloated and caught some gynecomastia that will show later. Now, he’s stressing losing all the gains and wants to start bridging immediately, with GH and frags. All of this his first cycle.
His prolactin and estrogen have to be stupid high. Caber is a must and so is a solid AI. This dude running Proviron with this stack, with no other AI, has to be converting out of control. The timing of the PCT with 19-nor compounds is imperative. So is the bloodwork to do it correctly. This was a poor noob mistake.
basskiller89Hey brother!!
I think HCG is the most important part of PCT in combination with both Nolvadex and Clomid. The synergistic effects of all 3 are IMO the fastest and safest way to restore HPTA function healthily
Be careful with stacking too many HGH fragments ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX9djH1HuBI
Do people actually listen to that fucking clown in the video.
Dude made me wanna throw up on my laptop, his advice is flawed and dangerous.
basskiller89I do not believe peptides are something that should be messed with brother and I surely do not believe that the OP is ready for gear at all. There are a lot of red flags which make me think this is someone who is going to end up hurting themselves for lack of understanding how hormones work. I do not come on here to be malicious, I try to prevent kids from hurting themselves. I understand you are new here, welcome to Eroids!!
wait a second are you the dude in the video? and if so I do not take back what I said, I watched a lot of the videos on that site and the advice that dude gives is reckless to say the least, countless kids are listening to those videos and taking that dude dead fucking serious.
I agree the op should not mess with peptides, there expensive, quality unreliable, and untested to say the least, the only reason there so available is there blurring the legal red tape .
your right theirs a lot of red flags, but he is 36yo and has made the decision himself, worst thing to do is to leave the dude out to dry. I am not supporting him to run another cycle not at all.
my account may be new , but I am far from new to eroids.
basskiller89That is not me no, I do believe there are a lot of valid concepts, it's somewhat confusing I can understand where you are coming from, if you have any questions send me a PM!!
If you know that pct is more important than the cycle why didnt you get this sorted out before you started your cycle?