posted Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:50
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Oral winny vs inject winny? Ive never ran winstrol and just wondering what sort of results I can expect. Im running a sust npp and winny at the end. My new compound will be winstrol for the hardening effect. Id like to dry up hardened , some vascularity so if theres better options id like to learn thanks
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Oil based all the way. I've tried both, a few different brands of each. Some say there's no difference. But I see a major difference. I tend to stay away from oil based winny, water based is where it is.
RustyhookerOil based all the way. Water based is where it id.
So, what are you trying to say here?
I've tried the oil based. I did not care for it. Just was not results for me. Everyone is different just from my experience.
RustyhookerJust poking at the double talk. Lol
Oil based is slower on absorption but safer in ugl brands because the processes used. Aqueous is subject to microbes if the brewer isn't completely sterile. But yes, just like tne vs suspension. ...water has faster vang.
I was sure on the winny at the end of my cycle to condition and now I can't ever make up my mind. I want to focus on growing tissue first part of cycle then throw a dht at the end to make it all veiny freaky nasty. I complicate the shit outta this stuff lol
RustyhookerI ran winny both ways. Kicker and finisher. Finisher right up to pct was tons more fun.
Why? Winny unwinds test. Same as provi with sbh. So just using that theory. ...When in cycle is test high? And in cycle when does sbh rise? Both at the end right?!
Your body drives for that balanced axis. To stop the over abundance of test and regain balance, raise the sbh. Keep that sbh down and more free test. Plus imo test/winny work hand in hand. Compliment eachother.
Beginning of cycle as kicker. Yes you get your pump and energy boost. But is winny doing its full job? How much sbh is there to unbind? Basically, it's working alone.
Personally, I prefer the prop in the beginning for quick testosterone boom. Then run my finishers in tail end. And during the time after enanthate is dropped there's options. Winny can stand alone as your test levels drop. Or you can prop taper. If it's beach body then taper imo.
How would a prop taper cycle look im open to anything. Not tryna get spoon fed here but you seem quite knowledgeable lol so jw
RustyhookerIf test was 500 you could simply run 100 eod with the winny in there. Some guys week 13 is 100 eod and week 14 50 eod. I've just rolled with the 100 eod.
While back a regular member posted he runs his prop 2 days into pct. Some start pct with last pin of prop.
Many ways...
Thanks I appreciate that. Just learned why it effects ne the way it does.
RustyhookerThe old vet pharma winny was flat awesome! Miss the old days
Thanks guys. . How would you all lay out a sust, npp, winny cycle. Probably going with inj winny
If you go inj winny, make sure its the oil based. I tried the milky water based and it was like torture! Lol as far as the cycle 10-14 weeks 150 npp, 250 sust, mon wed fri. Last 4-6 weeks 50mg winny ED. Have the winny shoot out past the last sust inject 2 weeks so you can go straight into pct off the winny so you dont have 2 weeks of just waiting around to start pct. Thats what i would do, you may need to adjust doses based on your experience. Have some caber or prami on hand for prolactin issues and some adex or aromasin to control estrogen. Hope this helps!
that looks pretty good to me thanks, the only thing im unsure on is when to start and stop the npp. and also what is the difference in oil base and water base winny, is there any? why would they make both. like rusthooker said below it should be taken hour pwo would you still do that with oil base?
Start npp with sust, run it same length of time. It clears faster than sust so you'll be good. Oil based is what test no ester is to test suspension, just a newer superior less painful product. Water based injections hurt like a bitch. I would take oil based about an hour and a half preworkout. It has a slightly longer half life vs water bases.
ok got it, i appreciate it. pinning ed for 4 weeks thatll be a new experience haha
No problem buddy, im here to learn myself and i like to help out when i can. Honestly, the winstrol can be pinned EOD. Preferrably ED but you know you gotta do what you gotta do. Lol you may be able to pin it with a slin pin too, that makes things a little easier also. The only difference between inj and oral is with inj it is a little more anabolic and it skips the first pass through the liver so a slightly smaller dose is required for the same results as oral winny. Ends up just as liver toxic. Good luck with your cycle my man!
RustyhookerI can't speak on npp. If 12 week cycle hit the winny 10-14, hour pwo. Or if you can handle the pip split it 8 hrs apart. As long as the hour pwo fits.
by hour pwo you mean take it within an hour of pre workout.. correct..? ive never ran a dht ...thanks
RustyhookerHour before you workout yessir.
I love winny tabs. Interesting the capacity it have the molecule to break shbg like proviron. I usually take 40mg in 3 assumption to respect the semi-life (8hr)
Whit the inject version I like stay on 50mg day, but first time I take it 50mg eod with good result.
I use it in closer of my every cycle.
Hardness,,strength and lean mass...I absolutely love WINSTROL.
RustyhookerI loved winny. Might even pin it end of upcoming cycle. Injectable is best but if you can't handle the pip then sublingual. The pumps are great. Old pharma winny at 30 just hour pwo was good. I may try 50 this time.
I find injectable far more superior. Winny is highly anabolic and u can get great results, keepable muscle tissue you just have to eat a lot. When I say a lot I mean a whole lot of clean food.
AnonAgree with this. Even 15mg of winni inject goes a long way
AnonI didn't get much out of winny. Never tried injectable, only oral. Started at 50mg/day, bumped it to 75 before I noticed anything. Tried 100mg but joints got achy as shit. 75mg seemed to work best. I did notice a decent hardening and vascularity but thats about it. I dunno if its supposed to do much for strength really but I didn't notice a big increase. I got better results with tbol or var at the same dose as winny.