posted Mon, 12/26/2016 - 16:43
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+ 3 WHAT STEROID WILL YOU NEVER USE AGAIN?
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what's yours and why?
Was were the sides that made up your mind to never run that particular roid again?
Mine would be any form of tren..I go freaking nuts on tren..violent dreams..super aggressive..insomnia..anxiety attacks.
i know tren is a supreme game changer I just cant deal..I have a few buddy's that live on tren..and there sides are really not that bad?
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Dbol makes me gain like crazy but also gives me really bad back acne within just a few days and my hair starts shedding faster than anything else.
300 SavageHair shedding on DBOL I was unaware of that...Got and try to keep what's left...
Trestolone aka MENT 50. Lots of sides, very frequent injections and results that could be obtained with other compounds. MENT can make you sterile also.
300 SavageI heard you grow like a weed on ment..Did you have this experience?
Tell us more about the ment experience
Well it wasn't a totally negative experience. I certainly had gains in size and strength. I was surprised at how quickly I started feeling it and seeing results. I started at 75mg ed and after only about 21 days I had gained 13lbs. However I had to switch from adex to letro for estro related issues, I absolutely could not sleep more than a few hours at a time, and I started having severe head aches. I backed my dose down to 50mg ed hoping it would help and I'd still keep gaining. It did not help with any of the sides I was experiencing but i still saw gains that I thought were worth sucking it up. In the end the lack of rest and head aches took a toll mentally and I feel like the letro played a part in the way i felt to. Maybe, maybe not. The gains were great and had I ran it at 75mg or even 50mg ed for the full 7-8 weeks I intended I'm sure I would have seen excellent results. I just couldn't cope with the sides I was having. So ment is a no go for me from now on I'd rather use tren and take the lack of sleep it contributes to without the head aches and letrozole.
They all can make you sterile.Thats why this is not a child's game.
High MG primo. Worst than any sust or pip pain ever and As good as they are, 19 nors are getting harder and harder to recover
300 SavageHigh MG..meaning 200mg..I m running 150mg right now..ZERO pip...
Primo was my number two. I remember doing a quad shot with primo and it crippled me. I once bailed on a primo cycle after three weeks because of the damn pip.
300 SavageMaybe that primo was not brewed correct..The only time I ever had PIP from primo was with a 100mg primo ace..And that left a knot for about 3 days...
I'll never touch another 400mg test e. The pip was crippling. I'd limp so bad people would ask me what was wrong.
1 Test Cyp. I know most people tolerate this quite well, but it made me feel horrible and the pip was crippling, even when I would cut it with GSO. I tried many things to make this compound work for me cause I hard heard such great things, but in the end, I just couldn't take it. Funny cause I tolerate tren wonderfully which most people have issues with.
Here are a few things that 1 Test cyp did to me:
Extreme lethargy all day long
Blood work showed massive amounts of inflammation
Reduced effectiveness of test (blood work showed dropping test levels the longer I stayed on 1 Test Cyp, 500mg of test showed 2800 at 2 weeks, 1600 at 4 weeks and 635 at 6 weeks)
Acne issues due to fluctuating hormone levels
All this adds up to NEVER again for me on 1 Test Cyp
test levels dropping like that usually equals bunk gear.
Definitely was not the case. I have several sources of proof, but that's what I thought at first.
actually I was confused I thought you were talking about test cyp,not boldenone cypionate.I can see how the levels would drop and Ive always heard the pip is unbearable.
I was on a cycle of 1 Test Cyp (dihydroboldonone cypionate) and test cyp.
Let me try to explain what I think what happening with my test levels. I'm no scientist, so if this is sounds absurd, pardon me, it's just what I think was happening.
After I would pin the 1 test cyp and test cyp since I used one syringe to inject both, the next couple nights I would have HORRIBLE night sweats that would smell like gear.
Also, when I checked my blood levels, I had crazy amounts of inflammation.
So I believe my body recognized the compound as an enemy and was trying to eject it from my body, and since the test cyp was right there with it in the muscle, both were being "sweated" out while I slept.
Again, don't attack me if this seems ridiculous, I'm just have no other explanation since I knew the gear was not bunk. If you'd like to know how I know that, you can pm me, but believe me, I was thorough is making sure it wasn't the gear.
Or maybe the longer you were on the harder your hpta was shutting down.
Good point, but even if hpta was completely shut down, wouldn't 500mg of test yield more than 635 results?
True. I read it wrong also i skimmed and assumed before bloods.
Also i have zero experience with 1testcyp.
It's a tricky compound brother. Not worth all the effort if you ask me. I've gotten better results with primo with almost zero sides.
Even tren is gentler on me than 1 TC was.
Just put of curiosity bro...... Did you get your prolactin tested when you got bloods?
At the end of the 6 weeks, yes. It was normal range.
Fr sent buddy
1-test-cyp requires a high level of solvents to keep it stable......it makes perfect sense you would feel like shit as your body would be under a state of "constant attack"
Sounds plausible,the body is a complex machine.It could also have been just isolating it in a cyst and keeping it there like synthol.
Halotestin !! Insane vascularity but made me go crazy!! Looked sick though. Lol
300 SavageWhat mg did you use it at? And when you say crazy what are we talking?
I'm scared to run Deca
Did that way back. I'm not sure if it's because it was bunk but dam did I break out bad with it to the point where I got a few scars. Getting them removed soon but ever since then I never touched it again.
300 SavageGive NPP a shot its quality..I prefer much greater than deca..I never break out on NPP..
None. All gear is good,...... right? I haven't found any bad ones yet!
All I can say to that is you have been VERY lucky
300 SavageWow!!!
There was a time I loved dbol,agression,strenth increases and for me gains that I kept.I dont use it now because as I got older I started to have BP issues.I cant understand these assertions the all gains are lost or that its all water.I always thought it was a pretty good anabolic to add weight on a bulk.I like anadrol better but dbol use to be very cheap compared to drol.Ive seen many old timers that swear by dbol,deca,test,then pct and wont touch another cycle.
300 Savagehmm?interesting.....
Don't get me wrong,I'm not one of those old timers.I just know guys like that.I can't take the affect of deca on my libido,and dbol pushes my BP high very quickly.So I don't do either but never deca!Im one that tends to think things evolve for a reason.Ive found that I like other combos better.I am,however,still one that keeps most cycles very simple.
Test prop labeled as 200mg/1ml
Horse kick!!!!!!!!!!!
300 SavageOh ya..200mg prop will have you thinking to yourself..is this worth it?
Im with you prop is for masachist!
Dbol for me
Blood pressure through the roof in 30mg a day after just 3 days! Couldn't sleep I felt like I was having anxiety attacks and not to mention the gyno...even with adex .5mg EOD and ED I still couldn't get it under control so I obviously stopped it. Back pumps were crippling aswell
300 SavageThat does not sound fun my brother..
Var on the other hand....I'd eat those like skittles!
300 SavageYes, no bad sides on Var that's for sure...
bbondsEq gave me anxiety severely and bp was way to high also I'm sure others love it but I hated being hungry all the dam time, eat a huge meal hr later like I didn't eat at all it was quite annoying.
300 SavageInteresting..Ya the hell with anxiety..That's how i felt on tren..I did not like it..
Defo dbol I hate back pumps and shin splints. Don't understand anybody using it.
300 SavageYou get super strength form dbol no?
x2 on Dbol
It's a load of shite
I mean maybe you could time it with a growth h. cycle, but yeah it ups strength and puts a massive amount of strain on the tendons/ligaments as a result, liver too, ups water retention too, and BP as a result
It's basically a big old FAKE if you ask me! It disappears twice as fast as it appears, completely pointless
I would debate with anyone who tries to tell me they actually ever built real mass and retained it from Dbol.
Deca is a load of shite. Good for nothing but the ego and bloat.
meant dbol rather than deca there